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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:02:29 -0700
From: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
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To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches
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Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:24:13PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:29:26PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> +Mutt (TUI)
>>>> +
>>>> +Plenty of Linux developers use mutt, so it must work pretty well.
>>>> +
>>>> +Are there any special config options that are needed??
>>>> ...
>>> It should work with default settings.
>>
>> I can't agree with this.
>>
>> It took me lots of time to configure mutt to work well for me in the first
>> time. Just default settings are far _not_ enough, especially for us
>> non-english-speakers. One common setting is the encoding, of course, lkml
>> prefers UTF-8, so I must set my mutt with `set send_charset="us-ascii:utf-8"`.
> 
> This makes sense, but it's not really a mutt specific issue and 
> problems because mutt prefers iso-8859-1 over UTF-8 by default are
> quite rare.
> 
>> Manuals of mutt told me to add "subscribe linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" if I
>> subscribed lkml, but in fact, we'd better _not_ add this, or it will drop
>> myself from cc list.
>>
>> Or other things like these.
>> ...
> 
> Whether or not people want to get personal copies of answers to mailing
> list posts is a religious issue being second only to the vi<->emacs wars...
> 
> But as far as I understand it, this documentation is intended to help 
> people to get sending patches right (no line wrap etc.), not as a 
> generic documentation for mail clients.

Definitely.
and to reduce the amount of repetition that we have to do.

I'll add a bit about it not being complete s/w package config info.

thanks,
~Randy
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