Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD82C7EE32 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229842AbjCBRTf (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:19:35 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57130 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229801AbjCBRTc (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:19:32 -0500 Received: from madras.collabora.co.uk (madras.collabora.co.uk [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:82:1000:25:2eeb:e5ab]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9FC4FF2E for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:19:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.10.12] (unknown [39.45.217.110]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: usama.anjum) by madras.collabora.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F57F6602F64; Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:19:26 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=collabora.com; s=mail; t=1677777569; bh=7RnD/iUTxYbiKeSPS2PQXidFyIoI+DO5y3jtIWYTtc4=; h=Date:Cc:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=ca0wdVQ9DgkifR9V85cyhbUhwFyj2NDR4NPMEJnDXLZpqXYWrS5Rj9yUmvq/J4m/C FYqluzIg6AJPDL6IU88b4W6SBZxGiG2oHrBqKxzHhGERMTT7qZNlDSgvNv9KbcNpUJ uKi74yGLlasI/J3pMeP3ggdXebzihYA4ydiQ86M4YDn3MN8UrTs2wV97y4jw5ShIr9 K/0TBUuSs6XaCb2fKaj6NStqDgcxlKiLGBvdcCb/7X3MYmBHWlKZoKm3LtkJFQZWGb EMLfZPaEQW2coyQbSZTju5KeJoII6qS5e/xqtlTGTNJNwQC2A6I/1sgS5fRMrK1FfO bUDJohI06/OMQ== Message-ID: <9aa69bfb-c726-ac2c-127a-b21fd35ab40b@collabora.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 22:19:22 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.2 Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum , Andrea Arcangeli , Andrew Morton , Mike Rapoport , Axel Rasmussen , Nadav Amit , David Hildenbrand , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, "kernel@collabora.com" Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/uffd: UFFD_FEATURE_WP_UNPOPULATED Content-Language: en-US To: Peter Xu References: <20230227230044.1596744-1-peterx@redhat.com> From: Muhammad Usama Anjum In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2/28/23 5:36 AM, Peter Xu wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 06:00:44PM -0500, Peter Xu wrote: >> This is a new feature that controls how uffd-wp handles none ptes. When >> it's set, the kernel will handle anonymous memory the same way as file >> memory, by allowing the user to wr-protect unpopulated ptes. >> >> File memories handles none ptes consistently by allowing wr-protecting of >> none ptes because of the unawareness of page cache being exist or not. For >> anonymous it was not as persistent because we used to assume that we don't >> need protections on none ptes or known zero pages. >> >> One use case of such a feature bit was VM live snapshot, where if without >> wr-protecting empty ptes the snapshot can contain random rubbish in the >> holes of the anonymous memory, which can cause misbehave of the guest when >> the guest OS assumes the pages should be all zeros. >> >> QEMU worked it around by pre-populate the section with reads to fill in >> zero page entries before starting the whole snapshot process [1]. >> >> Recently there's another need raised on using userfaultfd wr-protect for >> detecting dirty pages (to replace soft-dirty in some cases) [2]. In that >> case if without being able to wr-protect none ptes by default, the dirty >> info can get lost, since we cannot treat every none pte to be dirty (the >> current design is identify a page dirty based on uffd-wp bit being cleared). >> >> In general, we want to be able to wr-protect empty ptes too even for >> anonymous. >> >> This patch implements UFFD_FEATURE_WP_UNPOPULATED so that it'll make >> uffd-wp handling on none ptes being consistent no matter what the memory >> type is underneath. It doesn't have any impact on file memories so far >> because we already have pte markers taking care of that. So it only >> affects anonymous. >> >> The feature bit is by default off, so the old behavior will be maintained. >> Sometimes it may be wanted because the wr-protect of none ptes will contain >> overheads not only during UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT (by applying pte markers to >> anonymous), but also on creating the pgtables to store the pte markers. So >> there's potentially less chance of using thp on the first fault for a none >> pmd or larger than a pmd. >> >> The major implementation part is teaching the whole kernel to understand >> pte markers even for anonymously mapped ranges, meanwhile allowing the >> UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT ioctl to apply pte markers for anonymous too when the >> new feature bit is set. >> >> Note that even if the patch subject starts with mm/uffd, there're a few >> small refactors to major mm path of handling anonymous page faults. But >> they should be straightforward. >> >> So far, add a very light smoke test within the userfaultfd kselftest >> pagemap unit test to make sure anon pte markers work. >> >> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210401092226.102804-4-andrey.gruzdev@virtuozzo.com/ >> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/Y+v2HJ8+3i%2FKzDBu@x1n/ >> >> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu >> --- >> v1->v2: >> - Use pte markers rather than populate zero pages when protect [David] >> - Rename WP_ZEROPAGE to WP_UNPOPULATED [David] > > Some very initial performance numbers (I only ran in a VM but it should be > similar, unit is "us") below as requested. The measurement is about time > spent when wr-protecting 10G range of empty but mapped memory. It's done > in a VM, assuming we'll get similar results on bare metal. > > Four test cases: > > - default UFFDIO_WP > - pre-read the memory, then UFFDIO_WP (what QEMU does right now) > - pre-fault using MADV_POPULATE_READ, then default UFFDIO_WP > - UFFDIO_WP with WP_UNPOPULATED > > Results: > > Test DEFAULT: 2 > Test PRE-READ: 3277099 (pre-fault 3253826) > Test MADVISE: 2250361 (pre-fault 2226310) > Test WP-UNPOPULATE: 20850 In your case: Default < WP-UNPOPULATE < MADVISE < PRE-READ In my testing on next-20230228 with this patch and my uffd async patch: Test DEFAULT: 6 Test PRE-READ: 37157 (pre-fault 37006) Test MADVISE: 4884 (pre-fault 4465) Test WP-UNPOPULATE: 17794 DEFAULT < MADVISE < WP-UNPOPULATE < PRE-READ On my setup, MADVISE is performing better than WP-UNPOPULATE consistently. I'm not sure why I'm getting this discrepancy here. I've liked your results to be honest where we perform better with WP-UNPOPULATE than MADVISE. What can be done to get consistent benchmarks over your and my side? > > I'll add these information into the commit message when there's a new > version. > > [1] https://github.com/xzpeter/clibs/blob/master/uffd-test/uffd-wp-perf.c > -- BR, Muhammad Usama Anjum