Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932305AbXINVUy (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:20:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756850AbXINVUr (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:20:47 -0400 Received: from smtp-outbound-1.vmware.com ([65.113.40.141]:46599 "EHLO smtp-outbound-1.vmware.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756231AbXINVUq (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:20:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH] Refactor hypercall infrastructure From: Zachary Amsden To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge , Anthony Liguori , kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Avi Kivity In-Reply-To: <46EAF6FC.80207@codemonkey.ws> References: <11897991353793-git-send-email-aliguori@us.ibm.com> <46EAF4C6.8090903@goop.org> <46EAF6FC.80207@codemonkey.ws> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:20:47 -0700 Message-Id: <1189804847.5982.137.camel@bodhitayantram.eng.vmware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1818 Lines: 39 On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 16:02 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote: > > Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > >> This patch refactors the current hypercall infrastructure to better support live > >> migration and SMP. It eliminates the hypercall page by trapping the UD > >> exception that would occur if you used the wrong hypercall instruction for the > >> underlying architecture and replacing it with the right one lazily. > >> > >> > > > > I guess it would be pretty rude/unlikely for these opcodes to get reused > > in other implementations... But couldn't you make the page trap > > instead, rather than relying on an instruction fault? > > > > The whole point of using the instruction is to allow hypercalls to be > used in many locations. This has the nice side effect of not requiring > a central hypercall initialization routine in the guest to fetch the > hypercall page. A PV driver can be completely independent of any other > code provided that it restricts itself to it's hypercall namespace. But if the instruction is architecture dependent, and you run on the wrong architecture, now you have to patch many locations at fault time, introducing some nasty runtime code / data cache overlap performance problems. Granted, they go away eventually. I prefer the idea of a hypercall page, but not a central initialization. Rather, a decentralized approach where PV drivers can detect using CPUID which hypervisor is present, and a common MSR shared by all hypervisors that provides the location of the hypercall page. Zach - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/