From:   Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
CC:     Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
        Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 02/14] iommufd: Add nesting related data structures for
 ARM SMMUv3
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Date:   Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:07:54 +0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Gunthorpe [mailto:jgg@nvidia.com]
> Sent: 09 March 2023 16:00
> To: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
> Cc: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>; Nicolin Chen
> <nicolinc@nvidia.com>; robin.murphy@arm.com; will@kernel.org;
> eric.auger@redhat.com; kevin.tian@intel.com; baolu.lu@linux.intel.com;
> joro@8bytes.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> iommu@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; yi.l.liu@intel.com
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 02/14] iommufd: Add nesting related data structures
> for ARM SMMUv3
> 
> On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 03:51:42PM +0000, Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
> wrote:
> 
> > > For ARM cases where there is no shared VMID space with KVM, the ARM
> > > VMID should be somehow assigned to the iommfd_ctx itself and the alloc
> > > domain op should receive it from there.
> >
> > Is there any use of VMID outside SMMUv3? I was thinking if nested domain
> alloc
> > doesn't provide the KVM instance, then SMMUv3 can use its internal VMID.
> 
> When we talk about exposing an SMMUv3 IOMMU CMDQ directly to
> userspace then
> VMID is the security token that protects it.
> 
> So in that environment every domain under the same iommufd should
> share the same VMID so that the CMDQ's also share the same VMID.
> 
> I expect this to be a common sort of requirement as we will see
> userspace command queues in the other HW as well.
> 
> So, I suppose the answer for now is that ARM SMMUv3 should just
> allocate one VMID per iommu_domain and there should be no VMID in the
> uapi at all.
> 
> Moving all iommu_domains to share the same VMID is a future patch.
> 
> Though.. I have no idea how vVMID is handled in the SMMUv3
> architecture. I suppose the guest IOMMU HW caps are set in a way that
> it knows it does not have VMID?

I think, Guest only sets up the SMMUv3 S1 stage and it doesn't use VMID.

Thanks,
Shameer