Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757406AbXIOIGL (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:06:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753449AbXIOIFj (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:05:39 -0400 Received: from tag.witbe.net ([81.88.96.48]:51789 "EHLO tag.witbe.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752836AbXIOIFg (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:05:36 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:04:48 +0000 From: Paul Rolland To: Adrian Bunk Cc: Stefan Richter , Jeff Garzik , Andi Kleen , James Bottomley , Folkert van Heusden , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, rol@witbe.net Subject: Re: sata & scsi suggestion for make menuconfig Message-ID: <20070915080448.37457dcf@tux.DEF.witbe.net> In-Reply-To: <20070914151522.GL3563@stusta.de> References: <20070907124800.GP16806@vanheusden.com> <1189371621.3526.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070909210329.GE25798@one.firstfloor.org> <46E46190.6080607@garzik.org> <20070912224655.GC3563@stusta.de> <46EAA08F.30703@s5r6.in-berlin.de> <20070914151522.GL3563@stusta.de> Organization: AS2917.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2189 Lines: 49 Hello, On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:15:22 +0200 Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 04:54:07PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 05:11:44PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > >> Let's step back a moment and consider the actual scale and impact of > > >> the problem at hand. > Do "make menuconfig" with the .config you are normally using, count the > number of options that are visible, and ask yourself whether we can > really expect users to read the help texts for every single option shown. > > People mostly read help texts for options where they don't understand > what this option is about - and "Serial ATA" therefore is an option that > is likely to get enabled without the user looking at the help text. > As a "make menuconfig" user, let me say that I agree. Of course, I'm used to rebuild kernel, but sometimes, some options are not clear, and the help text is searched for. But, getting too much of "No help text available" usually results in people no more reading the help text. What about splitting the screen to have the top half with the menu, and the bottom half with the help ? Paul -- Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE Please no HTML, I'm not a browser - Pas d'HTML, je ne suis pas un navigateur "Some people dream of success... while others wake up and work hard at it" "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'" --Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/