Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753954AbXIONiS (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:38:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750717AbXIONiK (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:38:10 -0400 Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com ([72.14.204.238]:13638 "EHLO qb-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750702AbXIONiI (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:38:08 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TFYtAxPvA7TrtdgoxA9VjBzhHWI/kt5qrR5VXz0vHADSDKxJaBcykdIkqsClHXcUPyxSo3dfED7Q4V4wl8LD+W0CzvsPVtjGO5KVPnrH0oORtH1K75Yb4nN5Z96ghdX6cUyB/JfSQybb+ebjTwqJAvM0oC8jVhuRZmuTjjySJJc= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:38:06 +0200 From: "Markus Rechberger" To: "Johannes Stezenbach" Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner Cc: "Steven Toth" , "Manu Abraham" , "video4linux-list@redhat.com" , "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" In-Reply-To: <20070915131650.GA12531@linuxtv.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46E95C54.4060502@gmail.com> <46E99F36.8090809@hauppauge.com> <46E9DDC7.4000403@hauppauge.com> <20070914113838.GA29962@linuxtv.org> <20070914204343.GA9058@linuxtv.org> <20070915131650.GA12531@linuxtv.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2157 Lines: 51 On 9/15/07, Johannes Stezenbach wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: > > > > it gets me thinking. Some core developers who I met during > > the last few weeks (kernel summit, suse conference in czech) > > told me to go on with it actually because the final plan isn't that > > bad.. > > I was referring to your code you posted for merging on linux-dvb, > and which got rejected. Anyway, it's easy to agree with you if one > has just heard _your_ version -- the purpose of this thread is to > give people an alternate version of the story to complement > yours, which would allow the people you talked to to think it over > and change their mind. See if you can get of those people you > talked to to post here to support you. > Everyone knows that there are some issues even some internal ones which I'm not part of. Not sure if you met some other kernel developers recently, all you can hear is "those crazy media guys" (which just includes everyone who works with media related drivers) > > Beside that I'm just curious how much did you contribute > > during the last 2 years to the lkml/linux kernel, and how much > > do you want to contribute in future? (also from my side > > talk is cheap (even for me) but getting something done costs > > quite some time and feedback from other people) > > IOW you say if I don't write code I should shut up? > Is that also what you tell users on your em28xx list > when they dare to disagree with you? > > Nice... > This is a free world you can write whatever you want, but if you want me to change my code you need to convince me that I should acknowlidge your ideas. And by not acknowlidging my requirements don't expect that I will go back to the start and try to reinvent the wheel. After almost 2 years I'm quite into those things and I know what I want for my project and what I'll try to achieve with what I'm doing. Markus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/