Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752056AbXIPHc5 (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:32:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751274AbXIPHcu (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:32:50 -0400 Received: from smtpoutm.mac.com ([17.148.16.72]:64990 "EHLO smtpoutm.mac.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751243AbXIPHct (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:32:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200709150333.20384.jcroberts@designtools.org> References: <5C8C3794-C62A-4935-8267-81080CCF6867@dixongroup.net> <200709150333.20384.jcroberts@designtools.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1B000B52-707E-4592-88CD-64BD88C6C9B2@mac.com> Cc: Jason Dixon , misc@openbsd.org, moglen@softwarefreedom.org, lessig_from_web@pobox.com, bkuhn@softwarefreedom.org, norwood@softwarefreedom.org, fontana@softwarefreedom.org, karen@softwarefreedom.org, rmsemail@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kyle Moffett Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:32:42 -0400 To: "J.C. Roberts" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3764 Lines: 92 On Sep 15, 2007, at 06:33:18, J.C. Roberts wrote: > Would Linus put up a fight if someone took his source tree and > relicensed the whole thing as GPLv3 without his permission? Yep, > you betcha he'd fight and he has already had to put up with a lot > of strong arm nonsense from the GPLv3/FSF zealots. OH COME FREAKING ON!!!! Can you guys DROP it already? There was NO VIOLATION because nobody actually changed the code!!! The patch that Jesper submitted was a *MISTAKE* and was *NEVER* *MERGED*!!! Nobody needs to argue/flame/spam about anything because there is no change in the code. My god this has been said 30 times by 30 different people at this point. I swear it feels like talking to a wall. EXHIBIT #1: On Sep 03, 2007, at 10:50:53, Adrian Bunk wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Reyk Floeter ----- >> - This is eating our time. Every few weeks I get a new discussion >> about licensing of the atheros driver etc. blah blah. Why can't >> they just accept the license as it is and focus on more important >> things? >> >> I will talk to different people to get the latest state and to >> think about the next steps. I don't even know if the issue has >> been solved in the linux tree. > > To clarify this myth once again: > > The patch that mistakenly changed BSD-only code to GPL has never > ever been in the Linux tree. EXHIBIT #2: On Sep 02, 2007, at 13:57:41, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Marc Espie wrote: >> After reading the current email exchanges, I've become convinced >> there is something VERY fishy going on, and some people there have >> hidden agendas. Look at the situation: Reyk Floeter writes some >> code, puts it under a dual licence, and goes on vacation. While >> he's away, some other people (Jiri, for starters) tweak the >> copyright and licence on the file he's mostly written. Without asking > > Dude, you have got to put down the conspiracy juice. NOTHING IS IN > STONE, because nothing has been committed to my repository, much > less torvalds/linux-2.6.git. A patch was posted, people > complained, corrections were made. That's how adults handle > mistakes. Mistakes were made, and mistakes were rectified. > >> Reyk. Without even having the basic decency to wait for him to be >> around. > > Demonstrably false: you cannot make that claim until the code is > actually committed to Linux. EXHIBIT #3: On Sep 03, 2007, at 12:12:28, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:03:07 +0200, Marc Espie said: >> Look at the situation: Reyk Floeter writes some code, puts it >> under a dual licence, and goes on vacation. While he's away, some >> other people (Jiri, for starters) tweak the copyright and licence >> on the file he's mostly written. Without asking Reyk. Without even >> having the basic decency to wait for him to be around. > > And we collectively told Jiri where to stick that. > > So let's recap: > > 1) Jiri submitted a borked patch that changed the licenses. > 2) We didn't accept said patch. > 3) There's then a whole big fuss about a *NON EXISTENT PROBLEM*. > > I could see where the *BSD people could complain if we had > *accepted and distributed* said patch. But it was wrong, we > recognized it was wrong, and the system is working as designed. So > let's quit the flamefest already. CONCLUSION: You guys are spamming our mailing list for NO GOOD REASON!!!! Can we *please* get back to actual useful development now? 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