Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D07C74A44 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2023 20:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229764AbjCKUSA (ORCPT ); Sat, 11 Mar 2023 15:18:00 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:33224 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229437AbjCKUR6 (ORCPT ); Sat, 11 Mar 2023 15:17:58 -0500 Received: from ams.source.kernel.org (ams.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4601:e00::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2574F4EDB; Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ams.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D1D9B802C8; Sat, 11 Mar 2023 20:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 79158C433EF; Sat, 11 Mar 2023 20:17:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1678565872; bh=zAct4A8dmYLb2tq1YcKZbZIBN7UDdczcn/skD8kSt3A=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=owmTL6eeeugcG1J/n/MoUyt8Bg8zWaLBFBI5LC0ucS0KQ+vDZgJDlROR+ARetbyl5 /pIgnCJiquebkzjtev1wfPFkgiWZKWexbr0zt9Gd5g4BOcBRpjzf6saZ4BYx5AgT4p MGiat+kGTjZbqeHMvDWUn2AVDtfOzx2siR89LIVrFOO5Aha17s+2be+7gOrwed1DGs ZkkmWf6QqlqHiYWEipjFD1SsiXWp9cQd0NU4b3ql5l11vFD9U58izjb6eVsKh337Ta 2DAdpDmbq5IJ5tLLpZsZbJ7RP9IKMGaajRtEhyVtkc/O3Z/fdNvAICPpPvp/HTzga7 1MhmvvPpZ1mHQ== Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:17:50 -0800 From: Eric Biggers To: Sasha Levin Cc: Theodore Ts'o , Matthew Wilcox , Pavel Machek , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: AUTOSEL process Message-ID: References: <20230311161644.GH860405@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 01:26:57PM -0500, Sasha Levin wrote: > I'm getting a bunch of suggestions and complaints that I'm not implementing > those suggestions fast enough on my spare time. BTW, the "I don't have enough time" argument is also a little frustrating because you are currently insisting on doing AUTOSEL at all, at the current sensitivity that picks up way too many commits. I can certainly imagine that that uses a lot of your time! But, many contributors are telling you that AUTOSEL is actually *worse than nothing* currently. So to some extent this is a self-inflicted problem. You are *choosing* to spend your precious time running in-place with something that is not working well, instead of putting AUTOSEL on pause or turning down the sensitivity to free up time while improvements to the process are worked on. (And yes, I know there are many stable patches besides AUTOSEL, and it's a lot of work, and I'm grateful for what you do. I am *just* talking about AUTOSEL here. And yes, I agree that AUTOSEL is needed in principle, so there's no need to re-hash the arguments for why it exists. It just needs some improvements.) - Eric