Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C0DC6FA99 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 08:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229568AbjCLIEj (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Mar 2023 04:04:39 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:40266 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229469AbjCLIEg (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Mar 2023 04:04:36 -0400 Received: from mail-ua1-x936.google.com (mail-ua1-x936.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::936]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81ECE311FF; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 00:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ua1-x936.google.com with SMTP id f20so6306315uam.3; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 00:04:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1678608274; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=qfKEOLAKbj2XxL1hjifvx1HBaIqseG2a+SMKBfbB8Q8=; b=NvsU8KZWHVok2krusvOYBl8VJ3SZToWl4IxQ3YaoT7DGH0G3CMa5K5qFkov1HFnJ40 DJnpSMmpU3UnzQ2hfZ+TNK4vUbcYOdwTYcSW1WwJrzwMW/39NtIuEZveMUEENX2Cc2bK LX0BC+F9QDH1QzLIS3NtbmBK42mhPmTzjxPb1UMEnbIbH9uT/MqSJIVXgHnktPMONZR/ Qz+BGvVhKLNsZ7UUk5LvWhlA+i82C1262+QZ4sHzoIbI1PQsOXttEihAGWwXf8qN0RWa OWWyx/u145+FXyG5KBD6tgCeYKViW/l8YUH1ikTMAVqIFeC6fM88HVMvryt8S25paj/z Lnbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678608274; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=qfKEOLAKbj2XxL1hjifvx1HBaIqseG2a+SMKBfbB8Q8=; b=aeVYZqntbsVvM6W1nOVJTNIoSLYkKjQU9aulBgW4q1dD0VeE4B64rvovm4toQRGJUY g/LaCkveR7YnOzeeq1+EG+NR3XHewPzW9EWYVVldpcaOCSpM13Vq+5/5QSM8mLmjydEe vWloRqQn5PqkQ/xpeSviLNc41JFmduekTMFPGisPez49ttV5Hp4Yl9fBQ45sf8/y7gQ8 tyCUt1kAq7SOWt4h3adZjgvQ4ubl4dimH1sp3Nqar+aEszyI2ZYVxOf94KrgiyQJdKRi lQbWLKzzNksX/F8GwoYtBFMCkDz1wgtAF0+ufIvxvibe5LWExqwMsHUVN/XJ3rMSZ5F1 FwaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKXXHGa3z1KzEpRbGHqSyCuAX7poYF/ej2AkT9g+xYTCJZHLRVIG L6LZAIacbG91tPfTveOc4se+d3nFiwKd8weBK8A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set9zGF5d+FIDYqhziPYi6klNOORn4sUp17ULW6w/0eIBU5yc6eBlG5zDiOogTJ0L2HUTYH6bHAmCBiJH8vjcE44= X-Received: by 2002:a9f:3001:0:b0:68b:817b:eec8 with SMTP id h1-20020a9f3001000000b0068b817beec8mr19598266uab.0.1678608274574; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 00:04:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230311161644.GH860405@mit.edu> In-Reply-To: From: Amir Goldstein Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 10:04:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AUTOSEL process To: Sasha Levin Cc: Eric Biggers , "Theodore Ts'o" , Matthew Wilcox , Pavel Machek , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Leah Rumancik , "Luis R. Chamberlain" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 11:25=E2=80=AFPM Sasha Levin wr= ote: > > On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 10:54:59AM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: ... > >And yes, I am interested in contributing, but as I mentioned I think you= need to > >first acknowledge that there is a problem, fix your attitude of immediat= ely > >pushing back on everything, and make it easier for people to contribute. > > I don't think we disagree that the process is broken: this is one of the > reasons we went away from trying to support 6 year LTS kernels. > > However, we are not pushing back on ideas, we are asking for a hand in > improving the process: we've been getting drive-by comments quite often, > but when it comes to be doing the actual work people are quite reluctant > to help. > > If you want to sit down and scope out initial set of work around tooling > to help here I'm more than happy to do that: I'm planning to be both in > OSS and LPC if you want to do it in person, along with anyone else > interested in helping out. > Sasha, Will you be able to attend a session on AUTOSEL on the overlap day of LSFMM and OSS (May 10) or earlier? We were going to discuss the topic of filesystems and stable trees [1] anyw= ay and I believe the discussion can be even more productive with you around. I realize that the scope of AUTOSEL is wider than backporting filesystem fi= xes, but somehow, most of the developers on this thread are fs developers. BTW, the story of filesystem testing in stable trees has also been improvin= g since your last appearance in LSFMM. Thanks, Amir. [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/CACzhbgSZUCn-az1e9uCh0+AO314+yq6M= JTTbFt0Hj8SGCiaWjw@mail.gmail.com/