Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753526AbXIPSLe (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:11:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751766AbXIPSL1 (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:11:27 -0400 Received: from theseus.empoweringmedia.net ([67.72.106.11]:33911 "EHLO theseus.empoweringmedia.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751525AbXIPSL0 (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:11:26 -0400 From: "J.C. Roberts" Organization: DesignTools.org To: Eben Moglen Subject: Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:11:11 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 Cc: jeff@garzik.org, mrmacman_g4@mac.com, jason@dixongroup.net, misc@openbsd.org, lessig_from_web@pobox.com, bkuhn@softwarefreedom.org, norwood@softwarefreedom.org, fontana@softwarefreedom.org, karen@softwarefreedom.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <5C8C3794-C62A-4935-8267-81080CCF6867@dixongroup.net> <200709160217.55933.jcroberts@designtools.org> <1993-Sun16Sep2007091741-0400-eben@softwarefreedom.org> In-Reply-To: <1993-Sun16Sep2007091741-0400-eben@softwarefreedom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709161111.13078.jcroberts@designtools.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2208 Lines: 46 On Sunday 16 September 2007, Eben Moglen wrote: > Also, and again for the last time, let me state that SFLC's > instructions from its clients are to establish all the facts > concerning the development of the current relevant code (which means > the painstaking reconstruction of several independent and overlapping > lines of development, including forensic reconstruction through > line-by-line code reviews where version control system information is > not available), as well as to resolve all outstanding legal issues, > and to make policy recommendations Everyone is expecting yet another one of your lovely recommendations which very simply reads: "steal and infect everything you possibly can and refuse to pass on the rights that you have received." http://lwn.net/Articles/248223/ As you do your imaginary "painstaking reconstruction" the whole world can see you refuse to practice what you preach in the supposed "spirit" of your "steal-alike" license because you refuse to pass on the rights you have received. > The required work has been made more arduous because some people have > chosen not to cooperate in good faith. When you stated you intend to secure as much code as possible under your license of choice, you mistakenly told the world you had no intention of cooperating in good faith with anyone. > But making threats of litigation and throwing around words like > "theft" and "malpractice" was a Really Bad Idea Speaking of "Really Bad Ideas," you trained us. The only time we get any form of response is when we continue to become more loud, more abrasive, more aggressive, and more accusational. As long as people in your camp continue to use your license and lawyers as a weapon to push your "free as in koolaid" political agenda there will be people like me who will stand up and fight against your theft, your malpractice, your stalling tactics and your legal bullying. I hope the name Pavlov rings a bell. jcr - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/