Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7867C6FD1F for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 16:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229883AbjCLQA6 (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Mar 2023 12:00:58 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:50678 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229740AbjCLQAz (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Mar 2023 12:00:55 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCC184B816; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 09:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36F1460F3A; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 16:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E3BCC433EF; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 16:00:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1678636844; bh=nbxNTesKWPwebrszPu7Fl9hCJ3NJCxcSoKeuua/b7nA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=nW/4G4rtDiNnjMx0trpjZChXLuJtjpMmvG0SjWDpPGmUDTVK7T+bdNqFBilrdkB2e F7TGLqtfgZkiLkN5lBBCdqZAK7tqqFpQBJA0rnBYGY6z1ikrcPqZnW63lhxn7QDcCg o2miQUjKSMLUhoUYUEANhV2dFtWM9LFRuKs0GP4EYHUZnXj/DA/vn+L5kjvM0c4VJR r6lYhgAziH6iLzGguY5+kMTMAKA62ZDuAyIgPwgCQDDg/ZRLmE2POCw82tEhx4bjgF ohiqFyZsMjvwQSH0u6o5/77lp2MHQFHT9CajZDvPG/g6DHkt+0JKywxovMFyoWlnqq KVnaqDL/hHvWQ== Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 12:00:43 -0400 From: Sasha Levin To: Amir Goldstein Cc: Eric Biggers , Theodore Ts'o , Matthew Wilcox , Pavel Machek , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Leah Rumancik , "Luis R. Chamberlain" Subject: Re: AUTOSEL process Message-ID: References: <20230311161644.GH860405@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 10:04:23AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote: >On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 11:25 PM Sasha Levin wrote: >> >> On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 10:54:59AM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: >... >> >And yes, I am interested in contributing, but as I mentioned I think you need to >> >first acknowledge that there is a problem, fix your attitude of immediately >> >pushing back on everything, and make it easier for people to contribute. >> >> I don't think we disagree that the process is broken: this is one of the >> reasons we went away from trying to support 6 year LTS kernels. >> >> However, we are not pushing back on ideas, we are asking for a hand in >> improving the process: we've been getting drive-by comments quite often, >> but when it comes to be doing the actual work people are quite reluctant >> to help. >> >> If you want to sit down and scope out initial set of work around tooling >> to help here I'm more than happy to do that: I'm planning to be both in >> OSS and LPC if you want to do it in person, along with anyone else >> interested in helping out. >> > >Sasha, > >Will you be able to attend a session on AUTOSEL on the overlap day >of LSFMM and OSS (May 10) or earlier? > >We were going to discuss the topic of filesystems and stable trees [1] anyway >and I believe the discussion can be even more productive with you around. > >I realize that the scope of AUTOSEL is wider than backporting filesystem fixes, >but somehow, most of the developers on this thread are fs developers. > >BTW, the story of filesystem testing in stable trees has also been improving >since your last appearance in LSFMM. Happy to stop by and collaborate! I'll also be in Vancouver the whole week (though not in LSF/MM), so if you'd want to find time for a workshop around this topic with interested parties we can look into that too. -- Thanks, Sasha