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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:18:32 -0500
From: bofh <goodb0fh@gmail.com>
To: "J.C. Roberts" <jcroberts@designtools.org>,
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Subject: Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom)
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I don't thinl this helps openbsd or anyone else.   As Theo is already
working with the individuals involved, and hasn't asked for help, I
think rather than saying "I think you're going to suck", let's see
what happens.  Going ovewrboard isn't going to help anyone.


On 9/16/07, J.C. Roberts <jcroberts@designtools.org> wrote:
> On Sunday 16 September 2007, Eben Moglen wrote:
> > Also, and again for the last time, let me state that SFLC's
> > instructions from its clients are to establish all the facts
> > concerning the development of the current relevant code (which means
> > the painstaking reconstruction of several independent and overlapping
> > lines of development, including forensic reconstruction through
> > line-by-line code reviews where version control system information is
> > not available), as well as to resolve all outstanding legal issues,
> > and to make policy recommendations
>
> Everyone is expecting yet another one of your lovely recommendations
> which very simply reads: "steal and infect everything you possibly can
> and refuse to pass on the rights that you have received."
> http://lwn.net/Articles/248223/
>
> As you do your imaginary "painstaking reconstruction" the whole world
> can see you refuse to practice what you preach in the supposed "spirit"
> of your "steal-alike" license because you refuse to pass on the rights
> you have received.
>
> > The required work has been made more arduous because some people have
> > chosen not to cooperate in good faith.
>
> When you stated you intend to secure as much code as possible under your
> license of choice, you mistakenly told the world you had no intention
> of cooperating in good faith with anyone.
>
> > But making threats of litigation and throwing around words like
> > "theft" and "malpractice" was a Really Bad Idea
>
> Speaking of "Really Bad Ideas," you trained us. The only time we get any
> form of response is when we continue to become more loud, more
> abrasive, more aggressive, and more accusational. As long as people in
> your camp continue to use your license and lawyers as a weapon to push
> your "free as in koolaid" political agenda there will be people like me
> who will stand up and fight against your theft, your malpractice, your
> stalling tactics and your legal bullying.
>
> I hope the name Pavlov rings a bell.
>
> jcr
>
>


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