Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753203AbXIQHrK (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:47:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752147AbXIQHq5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:46:57 -0400 Received: from embla.aitel.hist.no ([158.38.50.22]:52586 "EHLO embla.aitel.hist.no" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751854AbXIQHq4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:46:56 -0400 Message-ID: <46EE311F.5040107@aitel.hist.no> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:47:43 +0200 From: Helge Hafting User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070329) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Theodore Tso , Adrian Bunk , "Can E. Acar" , misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Hazelton , Eben Moglen , Lawrence Lessig , "Bradley M. Kuhn" , Matt Norwood Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom References: <46ED7A8F.1020304@pro-g.com.tr> <20070916195909.GA18232@stusta.de> <20070916203926.GA17863@schlund.de> <20070916211208.GC5502@thunk.org> <20070916231633.GB10339@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> In-Reply-To: <20070916231633.GB10339@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1501 Lines: 46 Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 05:12:08PM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote: > > >> reimplement them. Why don't you go and try asking NetApp for sources >> to WAFL, and claim that they have "moral" duty to give the code back, >> and see how quickly you get laughed out of the office? >> > > which is _exactly_ what you guys are doing. > > so the linux community is morally equivilent to a corporation? > > that's what it sounds like you are all legally satisfied with. > A difference between linux and corporations: Linux actually gives changed source code back - just not with a BSD licence on it. So you can at least see what the linux community did, and do the same. Although not by direct copying. But why complain when the linux community do what the BSD licence lets them? If you think the linux community is abusing a loophole in the licence, why don't you just close the hole? For example, require that changes made to your code when used in the linux kernel must be made available under a BSD licence also. Still possible to use the code anywhere, but with a guarantee of getting stuff back. Your problem seems to be with the BSD licence, and the power to alter that licence lies in the BSD community. Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/