Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755493AbXIQLue (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:50:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753449AbXIQLu1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:50:27 -0400 Received: from mx.freeshell.ORG ([192.94.73.19]:62282 "EHLO sdf.lonestar.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753446AbXIQLu0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:50:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:50:19 +0000 From: Jacob Meuser To: Helge Hafting Cc: Theodore Tso , Adrian Bunk , "Can E. Acar" , misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Hazelton , Eben Moglen , Lawrence Lessig , "Bradley M. Kuhn" , Matt Norwood Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom Message-ID: <20070917115019.GA12790@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Mail-Followup-To: Helge Hafting , Theodore Tso , Adrian Bunk , "Can E. Acar" , misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Hazelton , Eben Moglen , Lawrence Lessig , "Bradley M. Kuhn" , Matt Norwood References: <46ED7A8F.1020304@pro-g.com.tr> <20070916195909.GA18232@stusta.de> <20070916203926.GA17863@schlund.de> <20070916211208.GC5502@thunk.org> <20070916231633.GB10339@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> <46EE311F.5040107@aitel.hist.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46EE311F.5040107@aitel.hist.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1690 Lines: 39 On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:47:43AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Your problem seems to be with the BSD licence, > and the power to alter that licence lies in the BSD community. I hope you can understand that this mentality is _exactly_ what has some in the BSD community so upset. when I see the linux community start to take credit for works they did not create and I see the linux community respond to warnings that people in the community are going overboard and jeopardizing the linux community, which we do all benefit from, with a more or less "whatever" attitude, it makes me sad. it would be like losing a friend. I don't like losing friends, so I get vocal. I don't understand why the linux community can't seem to say, "We can accept BSD licensed code. There's no need to add the GPL to it." and maybe even, "Although we strongly prefer the GPL, respect for other licenses is every bit as important as respect for the GPL." I could be wrong, but I strongly believe that if the above was truly accepted and believed by the community, the actions that started and spread this whole debacle^Wdebate would not have happened in the first place. look, the GPL legally forces others to keep the same license. the BSD community is asking the linux community do the same. and when the linux community refuses, what do you expect the recourse to be? -- jakemsr@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/