Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753929AbXIQM5R (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:57:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751918AbXIQM5E (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:57:04 -0400 Received: from mailout.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:47896 "EHLO mailhub.stusta.mhn.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752110AbXIQM5D (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:57:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:57:14 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: david@lang.hm, Jacob Meuser , Theodore Tso , "Can E. Acar" , misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Hazelton , Eben Moglen , Lawrence Lessig , "Bradley M. Kuhn" , Matt Norwood Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom Message-ID: <20070917125714.GI18232@stusta.de> References: <46ED7A8F.1020304@pro-g.com.tr> <20070916195909.GA18232@stusta.de> <20070916203926.GA17863@schlund.de> <20070916211208.GC5502@thunk.org> <20070916231633.GB10339@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> <20070917093011.GX32213@nudo.bsws.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070917093011.GX32213@nudo.bsws.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1599 Lines: 42 On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 11:30:11AM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: > * david@lang.hm [2007-09-17 02:29]: > > you claim that it's unethical for the linux community to use the code, but > > brag about NetApp useing the code. what makes NetApp ok and Linux evil? > > NetApp does not pretend to be free and open and save the world etc GPL and BSD are two different philosophies of freedom. Some people (e.g. me) consider the BSD licence a less free licence since it doesn't defend that the code stays free. Some people consider the BSD licence more free since NetApp or Linux or Microsoft can take your code and never gove back. Although I don't agree with it, I can understand the rationale of the latter. But stating in your licence that noone has to give back but then complaining to some people on ethical grounds that they should give back is simply dishonest. Is your intention to allow people to include your code into GPL'ed code and never give back, or is your intention that this shouldn't happen? And whatever your intention is should be stated in your licence. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/