Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755589AbXIQPim (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:38:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753611AbXIQPif (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:38:35 -0400 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:50098 "EHLO mailhub.stusta.mhn.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752717AbXIQPie (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:38:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:38:46 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Paul de Weerd Cc: "Can E. Acar" , misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Hazelton , Eben Moglen , Lawrence Lessig , "Bradley M. Kuhn" , Matt Norwood Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom Message-ID: <20070917153846.GO18232@stusta.de> References: <46ED7A8F.1020304@pro-g.com.tr> <20070916195909.GA18232@stusta.de> <20070916203926.GA17863@schlund.de> <20070916211351.GB18232@stusta.de> <20070917092019.GC23002@schlund.de> <20070917133845.GJ18232@stusta.de> <20070917151505.GV18186@despair.weirdnet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070917151505.GV18186@despair.weirdnet.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1808 Lines: 47 On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 05:15:05PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 03:38:45PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > | It's not about lazyness of BSD developers, many people who consider the > | BSD licence more free than the GPL argue that the advantage of the BSD > | licence is that it does not require you to give back. > | > | Something is wrong if your licence text clearly states that you do not > | require getting anything back but you then argue on moral grounds that > | something has to be given back. > > Something is wrong if your licence text clearly states that you MUST > give back, but then you don't return the favour on grounds that "hey, > they don't require it, so we don't have to". >... The GPL doesn't require to give back under a licence that gives less protection for the code than the GPL does. If you take the BSD licence seriously you don't request to get anything back on moral grounds. If you take the GPL seriously you don't want your modifications being available with less protection. In reality, where it makes sense technically, it's quite likely that an author will make his modifications, or even a completely self-written driver, also available under the terms of the BSD licence when asked in a friendly way. > Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd >... cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/