Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756598AbXIQQSl (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:18:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750852AbXIQQSe (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:18:34 -0400 Received: from mailout.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:54337 "EHLO mailhub.stusta.mhn.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752073AbXIQQSd (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:18:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:18:45 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: David Schwartz Cc: "Can E. Acar" , misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Hazelton , Eben Moglen , Lawrence Lessig , "Bradley M. Kuhn" , Matt Norwood Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom Message-ID: <20070917161845.GQ18232@stusta.de> References: <20070917133845.GJ18232@stusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2854 Lines: 69 On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 08:25:14AM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > > > And if you choose the GPL the code you distribute will be under the GPL > > *only* forever [1], so what value would be in shipping terms that are > > void? > > Not true. You cannot chose the license that applies to other people's code. The code you distribute contains protectable elements from different authors. Each element is still offered under whatever license the original author offered it under. > > You cannot affect the license grant from the author to the lawful possessor of code you did not author. > > The code you *contribute* will be under the GPL *only* forever. But the code you distribute will contain elements from different authors offered under different licenses. >... The licence text we are talking about disagrees with what you claim: <-- snip --> /*- * Copyright (c) 2002-2004 Sam Leffler, Errno Consulting * All rights reserved. * * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions * are met: * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer, * without modification. * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce at minimum a disclaimer * similar to the "NO WARRANTY" disclaimer below ("Disclaimer") and any * redistribution must be conditioned upon including a substantially * similar Disclaimer requirement for further binary redistribution. * 3. Neither the names of the above-listed copyright holders nor the names * of any contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived * from this software without specific prior written permission. * * Alternatively, this software may be distributed under the terms of the * GNU General Public License ("GPL") version 2 as published by the Free * Software Foundation. * * NO WARRANTY * ... <-- snip --> We are talking about dual-licenced code, not about BSD licenced code incorporated into GPL'ed code. That other people can distribute the original dual-licenced code dual-licenced or BSD-only, and that you can get the code under this licences from there, is without a doubt. But *the author* allowed me to choose the licence when *I distribute it*. > DS cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/