Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:17:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:17:47 -0500 Received: from mail020.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.58.60]:28828 "EHLO imf20bis.bellsouth.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:17:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:17:23 -0600 From: Matthew Fredrickson To: "M. Edward Borasky" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Over 4-way systems considered harmful :-) Message-ID: <20011212131723.A30408@frednet.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <2436533899.1007458881@mbligh.des.sequent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from znmeb@aracnet.com on Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 09:07:14PM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 09:07:14PM -0800, M. Edward Borasky wrote: > I don't see how this is a win for me. And it is a win for IBM only if it I think what you don't seem to realize is that most developers don't develop because they think it's good for you, or anyone else for that matter. Every developer has his own motivation, but I doubt that there are a great majority of them that do it just to please others. We don't do it for the "greater good", we do it because "it fixes this bug that keeps hard locking my kernel whenever I play track 2 of the new cd that came out", or "I guess nobody has written a driver for my new seti@home-on-pci card processing board, looks like if I want it to work, I'll have to write one". I'm not trying to sham the greater good mentality, but I'm just trying to tell you that most developers are primarily in it for themselves. > Perhaps effort should be placed into software development processes and > tools that deny race conditions the right to be born, rather than depending > on testing on a 16-processor system to find them expeditiously :-). And You have gcc, no? write some tools. I like doing driver development, I'll keep doing that until I need a tool to help me out with something, and then I'll write one. Maybe I'll get lucky and someone else has already written what I need. Matthew Fredrickson - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/