Received: by 2002:a05:6358:11c7:b0:104:8066:f915 with SMTP id i7csp1979395rwl; Sun, 26 Mar 2023 13:07:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/Ukjqg8hx/kPvNdkg8mATgB/E8aezv2eIpUSKYgTR5fVAon5ztu08t1RglsAjsb9eQ8NhQ X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:bab0:b0:db:f682:65ed with SMTP id fb48-20020a056a20bab000b000dbf68265edmr9749237pzb.61.1679861227198; Sun, 26 Mar 2023 13:07:07 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1679861227; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=C9KOBNWgNb8Mqki80lRso/jCXlSFp9j1USYJi8WiLw0i/jj5svchtEPCmWsmGgA0uY Dt3wbhr6sqVSySea0VfAiWXBdFepds8f6WacRiNMcZDlYqkyFiyjQMHlS7LUBniQjQvd GwDBOq1c4oZk5rEb5qXoMCeQKFNjE47m0dUXMi9iq6JV6MDz+1vVVNRiVIwJ7nlPSnpJ 1dqXHStP+GG8JUrWfb3nPd5jTVw5pcvlZzyH2sNBybYclGN0q0XB/CASPOgeO4qZdVRl TH1PP5QzrfKgOalqQxhaLhgSrJ+Kb9oroN0UWNE51WWbzdsKL7zNY/MDEzuZjQrWhlD2 wXMQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:dkim-signature; bh=YKjD7x8uhfK+3SVWbpBdAWOwQhtceInmfqs9Vg4+h80=; b=byvowNajegoxAqd6n+TjNlDSEuMEgh5LJYjXhcle4i/vPJLiaEmap7lWb+gB44oGKs Nsg83jPNQBEbSXZw1i4vdgpkgeAKuxGKI5+lq/Sdkthv7a68Jr7vgrs+t5fyG0al7apI St14FMlS6RIkDZLS8i0wM8SV25yiKuayYZK3NLc75JwluIejq38nRYdhGf0JDytPF5Yr dOuAkkrMk6wmv14Z7mGXzJNkGO9IO9cBUMPCRyprYOCcm6+3u9deJUK2uOMLuTUr/pSH IQ/k0uDHSuLUaoaIy195scKmDqgguREHyzM2En0CdTDbRpbM0qtnBDXiIZ0LGuPCwcne GOhQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=JtjWb5qq; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from out1.vger.email (out1.vger.email. [2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j18-20020a056a00131200b0062806504839si16280488pfu.168.2023.03.26.13.06.56; Sun, 26 Mar 2023 13:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=JtjWb5qq; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229793AbjCZUBm (ORCPT + 99 others); Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:01:42 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:43142 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229458AbjCZUBl (ORCPT ); Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:01:41 -0400 Received: from ams.source.kernel.org (ams.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4601:e00::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99EE026B3; Sun, 26 Mar 2023 13:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ams.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57204B80B7C; Sun, 26 Mar 2023 20:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A789C433D2; Sun, 26 Mar 2023 20:01:37 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1679860897; bh=P4XOT11XAhQ93LZDr3JOM/t5woiy287u8H54BiEaqVM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=JtjWb5qqyTsUCgwokKaFP6hI/q8KFOsueVvqrJqj2lVvzx9ppUbZEGvBhsEuHK+9s SrPMq8DTffbFMvsZJN11X21lo67fT5CMT08IhkExslISb032FNVi1kjUmgXSvjY600 nZ9J+mRfqmPYIStAkiTlq2oanGwr69FgUWfVHj6Vp+P6lIPUPurPnOl33frajzYVyH rmBAJUyFtYsLQ1PVOdXXlJBTuhfXoPHsVTe6MfNkQqyZJRlDuBVZ5cantWoTTIxQZR hZPRk4jp1G92Q8XRsLS1M58YbN58JGoWNvn50FP8wSNX2gTIODKIsPyVnILZXpl7GA cXh88CTvHodpA== Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2023 22:01:34 +0200 From: Frederic Weisbecker To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: LKML , rcu , Uladzislau Rezki , Neeraj Upadhyay , Boqun Feng , Joel Fernandes Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] rcu/nocb: Protect lazy shrinker against concurrent (de-)offloading Message-ID: References: <20230322194456.2331527-1-frederic@kernel.org> <20230322194456.2331527-2-frederic@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Le Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 03:51:54PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney a ?crit : > On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 11:09:08PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > > Le Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 04:18:24PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney a ?crit : > > > > @@ -1336,13 +1336,25 @@ lazy_rcu_shrink_scan(struct shrinker *shrink, struct shrink_control *sc) > > > > unsigned long flags; > > > > unsigned long count = 0; > > > > > > > > + /* > > > > + * Protect against concurrent (de-)offloading. Otherwise nocb locking > > > > + * may be ignored or imbalanced. > > > > + */ > > > > + mutex_lock(&rcu_state.barrier_mutex); > > > > > > I was worried about this possibly leading to out-of-memory deadlock, > > > but if I recall correctly, the (de-)offloading process never allocates > > > memory, so this should be OK? > > > > Good point. It _should_ be fine but like you, Joel and Hillf pointed out > > it's asking for trouble. > > > > We could try Joel's idea to use mutex_trylock() as a best effort, which > > should be fine as it's mostly uncontended. > > > > The alternative is to force nocb locking and check the offloading state > > right after. So instead of: > > > > rcu_nocb_lock_irqsave(rdp, flags); > > //flush stuff > > rcu_nocb_unlock_irqrestore(rdp, flags); > > > > Have: > > > > raw_spin_lock_irqsave(rdp->nocb_lock, flags); > > if (!rcu_rdp_is_offloaded(rdp)) > > raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(rdp->nocb_lock, flags); > > continue; > > } > > //flush stuff > > rcu_nocb_unlock_irqrestore(rdp, flags); > > > > But it's not pretty and also disqualifies the last two patches as > > rcu_nocb_mask can't be iterated safely anymore. > > > > What do you think? > > The mutex_trylock() approach does have the advantage of simplicity, > and as you say should do well given low contention. > > Which reminds me, what sort of test strategy did you have in mind? > Memory exhaustion can have surprising effects. The best I can do is to trigger the count and scan callbacks through the shrinker debugfs and see if it crashes or not :-) > > > > > /* Snapshot count of all CPUs */ > > > > for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) { > > > > struct rcu_data *rdp = per_cpu_ptr(&rcu_data, cpu); > > > > - int _count = READ_ONCE(rdp->lazy_len); > > > > + int _count; > > > > + > > > > + if (!rcu_rdp_is_offloaded(rdp)) > > > > + continue; > > > > > > If the CPU is offloaded, isn't ->lazy_len guaranteed to be zero? > > > > > > Or can it contain garbage after a de-offloading operation? > > > > If it's deoffloaded, ->lazy_len is indeed (supposed to be) guaranteed to be zero. > > Bypass is flushed and disabled atomically early on de-offloading and the > > flush resets ->lazy_len. > > Whew! At the moment, I don't feel strongly about whether or not > the following code should (1) read the value, (2) warn on non-zero, > (3) assume zero without reading, or (4) some other option that is not > occurring to me. Your choice! (2) looks like a good idea! Thanks.