Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:38:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:37:53 -0500 Received: from james.kalifornia.com ([208.179.0.2]:64296 "EHLO james.kalifornia.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:37:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3A1840E8.2A66FDD9@kalifornia.com> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:06:49 -0800 From: Ben Ford X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test10 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christer Weinigel , lkm Subject: Re: BTTV detection broken in 2.4.0-test11-pre5 In-Reply-To: <20001119150837.8EF2737237@hog.ctrl-c.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Christer Weinigel wrote: > In article you write: > >On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > >> On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, David Lang wrote: > >> > there is a rootkit kernel module out there that, if loaded onto your > >> > system, can make it almost impossible to detect that your system has been > >> > compramised. with module support disabled this isn't possible. > >> Yes, it is. Easily. If you've got root you can modify the kernel image and > >> reboot the bloody thing. And no, marking it immutable will not help. Open > >> the raw device and modify relevant blocks. > > > >Kernel on writeprotected floppy disk... > > So change the CMOS-settings so that the BIOS changes the boot order > from A, C, CD-ROM to C first instead. *grin* How long do you want > to keep playing Tic-Tac-Toe? > The way we do it is to boot from a CDROM with no onboard hard drive. (logging is provided by an external server) Beat that. -b > > Of course, using capabilities and totally disabling access to the raw > disk devices and to any I/O ports might be the solution, provided that > there are no bugs or thinkos in the capabilities code. > > /Christer > -- > "Just how much can I get away with and still go to heaven?" > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/