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From: Kent Overstreet To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, willy@infradead.org, axboe@kernel.dk Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] bio iter improvements Message-ID: References: <20230327174402.1655365-1-kent.overstreet@linux.dev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 08:20:01AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Mon, Apr 03, 2023 at 12:36:20PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: > > But this was all right there in the original commit message. And to be > > honest Christoph, these kinds of drive by "let's focus on the easiest > > thing to measure" comments are what I expect from you at this point, > > I'm really just curious what the motivation is. The code does not > seem much cleaner to me as the user of the API, and it doesn't reduce > code size. Maybe there is a good reason for it, but then it needs to > be very clearly stated and you need to sell people on it. Yeah, you're not trying to advance the discussion here, you're just restating your original position. I heard you, and I responded. > Starting to get personal instead tends to not help to convince your > reviewers that it's really useful in general. I know you and others like to talk a lot about what you want as maintainers and reviewers - but I find that the people who are the loudest and the most authoritarian in that respect tend not to be the people who drive discussions forward in productive ways.