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Date:   Tue, 4 Apr 2023 13:11:12 -0400
From:   Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
To:     Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] bio iter improvements
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On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:14:36AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 4/4/23 10:06?AM, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:01:58AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >>>> Starting to get personal instead tends to not help to convince your
> >>>> reviewers that it's really useful in general.
> >>>
> >>> I know you and others like to talk a lot about what you want as
> >>> maintainers and reviewers - but I find that the people who are the
> >>> loudest and the most authoritarian in that respect tend not to be the
> >>> people who drive discussions forward in productive ways.
> >>
> >> One issue is certainly that nobody wants to engage with people that
> >> instantly try and make this personal, or just uncomfortable in general.
> > 
> > Yeah, you like to respond to technical discussion with a *plonk*.
> > 
> > *eyeroll*
> > 
> > Christoph can handle himself, he doesn't need you defending him.
> 
> I'm not defending Christoph, I'm trying to help YOU understand why
> your patchsets always turn sour. And I'm trying to get this toxicity off
> the list, because it's frankly not productive at all and it's hurting
> the developer environment for everybody else.
> 
> If everybody else seems like an asshole, maybe it's actually you? A
> little introspection would be prudent. If you can't change your tone,
> please just go somewhere else. I'm not interested.

Let's just leave this aside for now and talk about it at LSF.