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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id r13-20020a056402034d00b004ab4569274esi1481486edw.88.2023.04.06.10.15.32; Thu, 06 Apr 2023 10:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.s=korg header.b=wJTj3+bp; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S239922AbjDFRIv (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 6 Apr 2023 13:08:51 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:48862 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229977AbjDFRIu (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Apr 2023 13:08:50 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6901A83F2; Thu, 6 Apr 2023 10:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07547649B3; Thu, 6 Apr 2023 17:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9CBEC433EF; Thu, 6 Apr 2023 17:08:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1680800928; bh=1B1sR1zgH1Xw7J4RVXwXydm6RpI/xuxwQ0JKdZa9ZfM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=wJTj3+bpSdYGnEZdPQ24xH1ZlnIUwErVNzn8xF0c2H/eorEakxi/FWD9BM1Ba1PoL hXZ/veihjgi0oxxvQQOVmZNjTEz5+K2k1QZt4SwwLTdywEnkVz/0bdXgB+hLQwbEEF YPbpZQFV10T6m8wAIk3VpSBqFwn66yObRxEeTqxM= Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:08:45 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Jonathan Cameron Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Yicong Yang , Mark Rutland , Ingo Molnar , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Will Deacon , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, yangyicong@hisilicon.com, linuxarm@huawei.com, Dan Williams , Shaokun Zhang , Jiucheng Xu , Khuong Dinh , Robert Richter , Atish Patra , Anup Patel , Andy Gross , Bjorn Andersson , Frank Li , Shuai Xue , Vineet Gupta , Shawn Guo , Fenghua Yu , Dave Jiang , Wu Hao , Tom Rix , linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org, Suzuki K Poulose , Liang Kan Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/32] perf: Allow a PMU to have a parent Message-ID: <2023040610-morbidly-supermom-e81c@gregkh> References: <20230404134225.13408-1-Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> <20230404134225.13408-2-Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> <61f8e489-ae76-38d6-2da0-43cf3c17853d@huawei.com> <20230406111607.00007be5@Huawei.com> <20230406124040.GD392176@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20230406174445.0000235c@Huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230406174445.0000235c@Huawei.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 05:44:45PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote: > On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:40:40 +0200 > Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 11:16:07AM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote: > > > > > In the long run I agree it would be good. Short term there are more instances of > > > struct pmu that don't have parents than those that do (even after this series). > > > We need to figure out what to do about those before adding checks on it being > > > set. > > > > Right, I don't think you've touched *any* of the x86 PMUs for example, > > and getting everybody that boots an x86 kernel a warning isn't going to > > go over well :-) > > > > It was tempting :) "Warning: Parentless PMU: try a different architecture." > > I'd love some inputs on what the x86 PMU devices parents should be? > CPU counters in general tend to just spin out of deep in the architecture code. > > My overall favorite is an l2 cache related PMU that is spun up in > arch/arm/kernel/irq.c init_IRQ() > > I'm just not going to try and figure out why... Why not change the api to force a parent to be passed in? And if one isn't, we make it a "virtual" device and throw it in the class for them? thanks, greg k-h