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McKenney" , Peter Zijlstra Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 7 Apr 2023 at 21:27, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 07 2023 at 20:36, Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 07, 2023 at 07:47:40PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 07 2023 at 13:50, Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > >> > On Fri, Apr 07, 2023 at 10:44:22AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > >> >> Now memory came back. The problem with posix CPU timers is that it is > >> >> not really known to the other side which task is actually doing the > >> >> expiry. For process wide timers this could be any task in the process. > >> >> > >> >> For hrtimers this works because the expiring context is known. > >> > > >> > So if posix_cpu_timer_del() were to clear ctmr->pid to NULL and then > >> > delay put_pid() with RCU, we could retrieve that information without > >> > holding the timer lock (with appropriate RCU accesses all around). > >> > >> No, you can't. This only gives you the process, but the expiry might run > >> on any task of that. To make that work you need a mutex in sighand. > > > > Duh right missed that. Ok will try. > > But that's nasty as well as this can race against exec/exit and you can't > hold sighand lock when acquiring the mutex. > > The mutex needs to be per task and held by the task which runs the > expiry task work. > > Something like the completely untested below. You get the idea though. I threw the existing reproducer at this, and it seems happy enough - no warnings nor lockdep splats either. Thanks, -- Marco