Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759430AbXIZODy (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:03:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753453AbXIZODq (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:03:46 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:33979 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754149AbXIZODp (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:03:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:09:51 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Miloslav Semler Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Chroot bug Message-ID: <20070926150951.2d8c2705@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <46FA43DD.7090703@prepere.com> References: <56705.193.171.152.61.1190289559.squirrel@webmail.marek.priv.at> <46F29A9A.4070806@davidnewall.com> <200709201817.17282@x5> <46F2B59F.8090709@davidnewall.com> <46F2DDD0.3030500@tmr.com> <46F380E4.4040606@davidnewall.com> <20070924213215.GA32716@vino.hallyn.com> <46F83474.5040503@davidnewall.com> <20070924230008.GA3160@vino.hallyn.com> <46F8BC8A.7080006@davidnewall.com> <20070925114947.GA9721@vino.hallyn.com> <46F91417.9050600@davidnewall.com> <46F924E3.50205@davidnewall.com> <20070925163040.12a3c2f8@the-village.bc.nu> <46F92AAB.1060903@davidnewall.com> <20070925164806.4cadc6a5@the-village.bc.nu> <46F99EDE.70905@davidnewall.com> <20070926011847.49bbb9a2@the-village.bc.nu> <46FA334F.7030802@davidnewall.com> <20070926114729.3b9d1fb4@the-village.bc.nu> <46FA3D4B.20805@davidnewall.com> <20070926122028.5f842d1e@the-village.bc.nu> <46FA41B4.9040104@prepere.com> <20070926123522.54ffd56f@the-village.bc.nu> <46FA43DD.7090703@prepere.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1071 Lines: 26 On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:34:53 +0200 Miloslav Semler wrote: > Alan Cox napsal(a): > >> but many program use this as security feature. So do you think that bind > >> may use vserver? > >> > > > > It would be a lot stronger if it did. A bind running non-root will be > > probably safe. A bind running as root can be attacked and break out of a > > chroot trivially. I guess it depends how you run bind. > > > but not bind with selinux. It can chroot, but not does other things. So > there is an question: Why we do not fix it. Tell me please some other > reason than "you can workaround chroot other ways". If you are using SELinux you don't need chroot for the security in the first place you can use labels and LSM modules can also handle things like ptrace which permit trivial escapes. Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/