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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 62-20020a630441000000b0051453dfd139si2924354pge.613.2023.04.13.13.24.01; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@google.com header.s=20221208 header.b=Wzt3hPSn; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=google.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230151AbjDMUWR (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:22:17 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57456 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230148AbjDMUWO (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:22:14 -0400 Received: from mail-ua1-x935.google.com (mail-ua1-x935.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::935]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81FD7902D for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ua1-x935.google.com with SMTP id o2so11206038uao.11 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:22:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20221208; t=1681417332; x=1684009332; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=bSiuE1pTIGd8fPQsZZ1Hnpoj7qtJ29yevjnpiNKiB1c=; b=Wzt3hPSnCj4oKztWkqr18q0LBfcLe6KIL9/BP+S3YbWQyjs8qsKgWL8NpszXPDIKKl Ft9r8sTc5/dA7lz2IasWlPkZoZ1NtXxvR+Ixr8BTAw9Ye79g0Hqf43JQ7WC1fMdIaBd5 lTnNpGA+LcxCoBvqU00s9PPAhXze8mYZNGtPsyOBoQXanb2HGJ/lCraTGhMWtrGSD0Vo ZC6caJWBx8UR22PJ5v2mAvtFLNhunD5UIlN+oN2PqNboJ7c1w3iEi+Zrd/qP2VVZ18Oa U/o+z+0v5Yg0Sy1itCLOn7N8pDk1+rin6OoE+WeC9Za+4EXe6hQccImC2lzLcmLAFkdf pfCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1681417332; x=1684009332; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=bSiuE1pTIGd8fPQsZZ1Hnpoj7qtJ29yevjnpiNKiB1c=; b=D5zQSOKdQdW6kyMDrzNT9aPXOuCtz2p7HSxHHWJ90OguzSOSpCNYycJtTXnqy5SIPY Rn4++8bSqJod/yXsnaQxpCd6m3H/Us/0SXan/KpZwEvGa7lLgxtghr2/qGpbLl+ELOVX oXLqRKhPh8Dp2XYtRVglRasOLeFOIKjIrUmZpXTlVdtfj/BGiH7nFKh60GmHkVZDvLhS qN+4HUUyjQ0ouCZp4Vt6sR7wlbezMfNJJG5lWr0PHvLkfvj1koH36yREWuHkKfgxdUqG RlmYM6Im9h5HGKDrD/g1xuEcas5kDHIzGMHHiTkUlzSx2b3S7faYGYkGajt3SzhVV31H wVjg== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9dx0005SWc1uBUl9KfqMPJRH89LvDixogjXAepFBG/1XqPzGwiE wNP+UCHySd+JhXWxe702WWHTRHqOBK1QjKl+PI4nYQ== X-Received: by 2002:a9f:3143:0:b0:68b:9eed:1c7c with SMTP id n3-20020a9f3143000000b0068b9eed1c7cmr2038407uab.0.1681417332084; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:22:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230227171751.1211786-1-jpiotrowski@linux.microsoft.com> <959c5bce-beb5-b463-7158-33fc4a4f910c@linux.microsoft.com> <61d131da-7239-6aae-753f-2eb4f1b84c24@linux.microsoft.com> In-Reply-To: From: David Matlack Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:21:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: SVM: Disable TDP MMU when running on Hyper-V To: Sean Christopherson Cc: Jeremi Piotrowski , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, Vitaly Kuznetsov , Paolo Bonzini , Tianyu Lan , Michael Kelley Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL,USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 12:10=E2=80=AFPM Sean Christopherson wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, Sean Christopherson wrote: > > Aha! Idea. There are _at most_ 4 possible roots the TDP MMU can encou= nter. > > 4-level non-SMM, 4-level SMM, 5-level non-SMM, and 5-level SMM. I.e. n= ot keeping > > inactive roots on a per-VM basis is just monumentally stupid. > > One correction: there are 6 possible roots: > > 1. 4-level !SMM !guest_mode (i.e. not nested) > 2. 4-level SMM !guest_mode > 3. 5-level !SMM !guest_mode > 4. 5-level SMM !guest_mode > 5. 4-level !SMM guest_mode > 6. 5-level !SMM guest_mode > > I forgot that KVM still uses the TDP MMU when running L2 if L1 doesn't en= able > EPT/TDP, i.e. if L1 is using shadow paging for L2. But that really doesn= 't change > anything as each vCPU can already track 4 roots, i.e. userspace can satur= ate all > 6 roots anyways. And in practice, no sane VMM will create a VM with both= 4-level > and 5-level roots (KVM keys off of guest.MAXPHYADDR for the TDP root leve= l). Why do we create a new root for guest_mode=3D1 if L1 disables EPT/NPT?