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From:   Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Date:   Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:25:49 -0700
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] migrate_pages: Never block waiting for the page lock
To:     "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
        Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Hi,

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 8:10=E2=80=AFPM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> =
wrote:
>
> Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> writes:
>
> > Currently when we try to do page migration and we're in "synchronous"
> > mode (and not doing direct compaction) then we'll wait an infinite
> > amount of time for a page lock. This does not appear to be a great
> > idea.
> >
> > One issue can be seen when I put a device under extreme memory
> > pressure. I took a sc7180-trogdor Chromebook (4GB RAM, 8GB zram
> > swap). I ran the browser along with Android (which runs from a
> > loopback mounted 128K block-size squashfs "disk"). I then manually ran
> > the mmm_donut memory pressure tool [1]. The system is completely
> > unusable both with and without this patch since there are 8 processes
> > completely thrashing memory, but it was still interesting to look at
> > how migration was behaving. I put some timing code in and I could see
> > that we sometimes waited over 25 seconds (in the context of
> > kcompactd0) for a page lock to become available. Although the 25
> > seconds was the high mark, it was easy to see tens, hundreds, or
> > thousands of milliseconds spent waiting on the lock.
> >
> > Instead of waiting, if I bailed out right away (as this patch does), I
> > could see kcompactd0 move forward to successfully to migrate other
> > pages instead. This seems like a better use of kcompactd's time.
> >
> > Thus, even though this didn't make the system any more usable in my
> > absurd test case, it still seemed to make migration behave better and
> > that feels like a win. It also makes the code simpler since we have
> > one fewer special case.
>
> TBH, the test case is too extreme for me.

That's fair. That being said, I guess the point I was trying to make
is that waiting for this lock could take an unbounded amount of time.
Other parts of the system sometimes hold a page lock and then do a
blocking operation. At least in the case of kcompactd there are better
uses of its time than waiting for any given page.

> And, we have multiple "sync" mode to deal with latency requirement, for
> example, we use MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT for compaction to avoid too long
> latency.  If you have latency requirement for some users, you may
> consider to add new "sync" mode.

Sure. kcompactd_do_work() is currently using MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT. I
guess my first thought would be to avoid adding a new mode and make
MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT not block here. Then anyone that truly needs to
wait for all the pages to be migrated can use the heavier sync modes.
It seems to me like the current users of MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT would not
want to block for an unbounded amount of time here. What do you think?

-Doug