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See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 08:59:03AM -0700, Palmer Dabbelt wrote: > IMO we should just take the support in Linux: trying to hide stuff behind the > SBI leads to more more headaches than it's worth, we end up with a bunch of > broken firmware to try and work around. We've already got a mess here because > of the D1 support, we might as well just live with it. I strongly disagree. Adding more and more per-vendor ops simply does not scale. We're getting us into a giant long-time mess that will be unfixable.