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[209.85.208.49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e6-20020a1709061e8600b0094776b4ef04sm1115577ejj.10.2023.04.20.12.39.36 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Apr 2023 12:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ed1-f49.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5058181d58dso1314916a12.1 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 12:39:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aa7:cc98:0:b0:506:b120:8df2 with SMTP id p24-20020aa7cc98000000b00506b1208df2mr2667877edt.12.1682019575666; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 12:39:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <168166781352.1843526.278570500979918184@leemhuis.info> <20230418182036.GS19619@suse.cz> <20230420190239.GX19619@suse.cz> In-Reply-To: <20230420190239.GX19619@suse.cz> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 12:39:18 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Linux regressions report for mainline [2023-04-16] To: dsterba@suse.cz Cc: "Regzbot (on behalf of Thorsten Leemhuis)" , Rafael Wysocki , David Sterba , LKML , Linux regressions mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 12:02=E2=80=AFPM David Sterba wro= te: > > No, the main concern is if discard works without destroying data, I actually ended up googling it, and I'm a lot less worried now, because at least according to my limited searching it seems like Windows enables trim by default at least since Win10. Of course, I also found some conflicting statements claiming that USB drives aren't considered SSDs, so who knows. But it does seem like probably new hardware ends up getting tested for trim, and the bad situation is likely really limited to only the bad old days. So together with Fedora having apparently enabled timed auto-trimming for some time, I guess I will just have to believe that the world has turned into a less dark and scary place than I thought it was. Knock wood. Linus