Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757520AbXI1SuS (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:50:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752874AbXI1SuF (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:50:05 -0400 Received: from smtp2.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.14]:50695 "EHLO smtp2.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751636AbXI1SuE (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:50:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:49:30 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Trond Myklebust Cc: Chakri n , linux-pm , lkml , nfs@lists.sourceforge.net, Peter Zijlstra Subject: Re: A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Message-Id: <20070928114930.2c201324.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <1190998853.6702.17.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> References: <92cbf19b0709272332s25684643odaade0e98cb3a1f4@mail.gmail.com> <20070927235034.ae7bd73d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <1190998853.6702.17.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.1 (GTK+ 2.8.17; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1615 Lines: 32 On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:00:53 -0400 Trond Myklebust wrote: > On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 23:50 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > Actually we perhaps could address this at the VFS level in another way. > > Processes which are writing to the dead NFS server will eventually block in > > balance_dirty_pages() once they've exceeded the memory limits and will > > remain blocked until the server wakes up - that's the behaviour we want. > > > > What we _don't_ want to happen is for other processes which are writing to > > other, non-dead devices to get collaterally blocked. We have patches which > > might fix that queued for 2.6.24. Peter? > > Do these patches also cause the memory reclaimers to steer clear of > devices that are congested (and stop waiting on a congested device if > they see that it remains congested for a long period of time)? Most of > the collateral blocking I see tends to happen in memory allocation... > No, they don't attempt to do that, but I suspect they put in place infrastructure which could be used to improve direct-reclaimer latency. In the throttle_vm_writeout() path, at least. Do you know where the stalls are occurring? throttle_vm_writeout(), or via direct calls to congestion_wait() from page_alloc.c and vmscan.c? (running sysrq-w five or ten times will probably be enough to determine this) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/