Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756323AbXI3D1j (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:27:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752761AbXI3D1c (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:27:32 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:54837 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752743AbXI3D1c (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:27:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:27:24 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: Linus Torvalds , Erez Zadok , akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] 0/3 coding standards documentation/code updates Message-ID: <20070930032724.GY8181@ftp.linux.org.uk> References: <11910151223214-git-send-email-ezk@cs.sunysb.edu> <18163.1191119041@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18163.1191119041@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1426 Lines: 28 On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 10:24:01PM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:18:05 PDT, Linus Torvalds said: > > > "CodingStyle" should be about the big issues, not about details. Yes, > > we've messed that up over the years, but let's not continue that. > > > > In other words, I'd suggest *removing* lines from CodingStyle, not adding > > them. The file has already gone from a "good general principles" to "lots > > of stupid details". Let's not make it worse. > > I think there needs to be a "sense of fairness" attached here - CodingStyle > should cover all the stuff maintainers/reviewers are allowed to whinge about. > Otherwise, we get maintainers whinging about undocumented style rules, and > we get code submitters who are unhappy because they have no real way to tell > if their code really *is* stylistically lacking, or if they just have a > jerk maintainer who wants to keep their code out-of-tree for political > reasons. ... and no matter how many rules you put down, it's still possible to write a code that will be awful stylistically while adhering to all of them. Religiously. IOW, it's not going to eliminate that kind of fights. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/