Received: by 2002:a05:6358:9144:b0:117:f937:c515 with SMTP id r4csp496459rwr; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 02:12:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ4gFJetMQymZNi0jF3WOKLSSgqIRb8D8lp5L/6fGpWBUPrDgH4mtftITHnafY3pdwb2SsMX X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1d91:b0:24b:fd98:f760 with SMTP id pf17-20020a17090b1d9100b0024bfd98f760mr659202pjb.0.1682500376949; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 02:12:56 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1682500376; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=kbxhoRil/LrVEjenLUJaDGyFWauwLLrFe1+XtDBkZW1HNi+0iOrIKtADNzR4mS6346 oc+ix2f8iIAfmkML6mussoKiOQPxKmcdToKsjBKKBFX9pUY5zBYzhd5yyz4SoplrfMwV vhoi2kfDi979rKfYjI7T32GxWb0jZoaLHx9377hEWNBZW28/ifJGYoNp/HiGI8B17IO1 MvXQ/ycJjP79iyy71Tpln66Dy+/WSlLUuGXVLj6H4NYbi8izxcpg7k2tGybHgIGK7Qyp MMMTkQUJOvl6Jo5kQmA/2VVaYBR2N7O5z+rpwOeUBg17svOdUs5irDEuh4f1iggwXQJs Sosw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from :content-language:references:cc:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version :date:message-id:dkim-signature; bh=9+dN92LmQfXbXHMK2NmBJQKJUnLY1Ut8QyqN1zjXcYA=; b=WyW3/cwMabs5Q/0q2mH+sxCMi0CQkPEO2Ny6/TfENfDkpvP8UY0yE1dO1vAtrBUR23 QeS94+vgxfFvR+OnQy8oT36nei72z6qWruXLMBDssjPOE/wqZ2OZKDayq+twnPTMhX2m cOm9UNvmnREe/tIAxljUUOH0X5GrxLcZVojezrnSloKF2oC74tgzbQVVIJUADyWAoKPc iqrtRDS7dL0pj6xCP74fqeao24Z6Az6HLEyQJLTFwflJf10MKz2sq/p9LOxP56s/iSuV Xi1NH2X5E2fzaWCuBFzeIpJzw6lwurrZmf1/3+KEGn66bNMM1VY8lLghBTm70qwT3L8l r73w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=XdHYtgh2; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from out1.vger.email (out1.vger.email. [2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id nm15-20020a17090b19cf00b00246a5bec306si18299453pjb.12.2023.04.26.02.12.45; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 02:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=XdHYtgh2; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S239842AbjDZJGN (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 26 Apr 2023 05:06:13 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:60962 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S239757AbjDZJGM (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Apr 2023 05:06:12 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DD5440D1; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 02:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3661860F36; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 09:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7DD6DC433EF; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 09:06:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1682499969; bh=yHrtZh0ixJGqT8aNySoPLQUjxCbh6T41JHLqYEyn0zU=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=XdHYtgh2MAgX5StFmK7uHWefEvUpasQ+Mn4vl1ZrUG0tPojUJ+GkEBSQiocqcIP7x pYlxZzuz+M0FKeFkIKKzLt4re6fFqtO14JF624SkzINpacMLEUlWrjV82nS8yaBvPp J95cUnVzpam4N6fKdg6dTSLB9AeV/qw+Y8F6K2279vrxB3pGprBYN1UoOZrfcMl67v Uxwh7HW3Sz30w90keEEwH8pRDkk1QA8eFO9shm6elaRX4pzkPdoCWpf28IOaK9/jcs AsEpt4qGUcO1OQfiOm2OuRBllnXW87wZzbHPKIEoVIiBHpkw/cr6lZomIozpD5AmM3 k/uU0/SU0x+5Q== Message-ID: <75429329-e2ca-b059-f0cd-af19c5b74096@kernel.org> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 11:06:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.1 Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: move tracing tools To: Steven Rostedt , Costa Shulyupin Cc: Jonathan Corbet , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, open list References: <20230425130231.912349-1-costa.shul@redhat.com> <20230425134824.5d57c431@gandalf.local.home> Content-Language: en-US From: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira In-Reply-To: <20230425134824.5d57c431@gandalf.local.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 4/25/23 19:48, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 16:02:30 +0300 > Costa Shulyupin wrote: > >> from list of development tools to user tools >> because these tools work on running kernel >> and are invoked from user mode > Wait what? No! > > The trace/ directory has a lot that is kernel internal only. Yes, it may > explain how user space can interact with it, but it's also how internal > kernel processes can use the ftrace infrastructure, and also explains a lot > of the kernel design of that code. > > NACK! NACK++ -- Daniel