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Date:   Wed, 10 May 2023 13:16:21 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] drivers: pci: introduce configurable delay for
 Rockchip PCIe bus scan
From:   "Vincenzo Palazzo" <vincenzopalazzodev@gmail.com>
To:     "Peter Geis" <pgwipeout@gmail.com>,
        "Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel.org>
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> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 5:19=E2=80=AFPM Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>=
 wrote:
> >
> > Hi Vincenzo,
> >
> > Thanks for raising this issue.  Let's see what we can do to address
> > it.
> >
> > On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 05:39:12PM +0200, Vincenzo Palazzo wrote:
> > > Add a configurable delay to the Rockchip PCIe driver to address
> > > crashes that occur on some old devices, such as the Pine64 RockPro64.
> > >
> > > This issue is affecting the ARM community, but there is no
> > > upstream solution for it yet.
> >
> > It sounds like this happens with several endpoints, right?  And I
> > assume the endpoints work fine in other non-Rockchip systems?  If
> > that's the case, my guess is the problem is with the Rockchip host
> > controller and how it's initialized, not with the endpoints.
> >
> > The only delays and timeouts I see in the driver now are in
> > rockchip_pcie_host_init_port(), where it waits for link training to
> > complete.  I assume the link training did completely successfully
> > since you don't mention either a gen1 or gen2 timeout (although the
> > gen2 message is a dev_dbg() that normally wouldn't go to the console).
> >
> > I don't know that the spec contains a retrain timeout value.  Several
> > other drivers use 1 second, while rockchip uses 500ms (for example,
> > see LINK_RETRAIN_TIMEOUT and LINK_UP_TIMEOUT).
> >
> > I think we need to understand the issue better before adding a DT
> > property and a module parameter.  Those are hard for users to deal
> > with.  If we can figure out a value that works for everybody, it would
> > be better to just hard-code it in the driver and use that all the
> > time.
>
> Good Evening,
>
> The main issue with the rk3399 is the PCIe controller is buggy and
> triggers a SoC panic when certain error conditions occur that should
> be handled gracefully. One of those conditions is when an endpoint
> requests an access to wait and retry later. Many years ago we ran that
> issue to ground and with Robin Murphy's help we found that while it's
> possible to gracefully handle that condition it required hijacking the
> entire arm64 error handling routine. Not exactly scalable for just one
> SoC. The configurable waits allow us to program reasonable times for
> 90% of the endpoints that come up in the normal amount of time, while
> being able to adjust it for the other 10% that do not. Some require
> multiple seconds before they return without error. Part of the reason
> we don't want to hardcode the wait time is because the probe isn't
> handled asynchronously, so the kernel appears to hang while waiting
> for the timeout.

Yeah, I smell a hardware bug in my code. I hate waiting in this way inside=
=20
the code, so it's usually wrong when you need to do something like that.

During my research, I also found this patch (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sh=
ow_bug.cgi?id=3D2134177)=20
that provides a fix in another possibly cleaner way.

But I don't understand the reasoning behind it, so maybe I=20
haven't spent enough time thinking about it.

> I'm curious if it's been tested with this series on top:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20230418074700.1083505-8-rick.we=
rtenbroek@gmail.com/T/
> I'm particularly curious if
> [v5,04/11] PCI: rockchip: Add poll and timeout to wait for PHY PLLs to be=
 locked
> makes a difference in the behavior. Please test this and see if it
> improves the timeouts you need for the endpoints you're testing
> against.

Mh, I can try to cherry-pick the commit and test it in my own test environm=
ent. Currently, I haven't been=20
able to test it due to a lack of hardware, but I'm seeking a way to obtain =
one.=20
Luckily, I have someone on the Manjaro arm team who can help me test it,=20
so I'll try to do that.

Cheers!

Vincent.