Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 00:02:26 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 00:02:17 -0500 Received: from fc.capaccess.org ([151.200.199.53]:40464 "EHLO fc.Capaccess.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 00:02:05 -0500 Message-id: Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 00:00:27 -0500 Subject: on topic and way timely To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: "Rick A. Hohensee" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org I have been wailing, here and elsewhere, since Judge Jackson's Finding of Law, that the Court should, unilaterally if necessary, open-source Microsoft to some extent. There are a few reasons this bears repeating, and in linux-kernel. Now is the official time to do what I've been doing for a long time, which is speak to the Court as an interested public. I'm not much of a public, however. The party currently taking wails is the US DOJ. I heard at MDFIG today that certain Linux users with severely deformed feet have been bad-mouthing unix again. They need to see what "sucks" REALLY looks like. Free access to older Windows source, reverse-engineered perhaps, but legally re-useable, could also assist such creatures in thier efforts to slaveishly mimic Windows, and could improve Linux's "traction on the desktop", even with deformed feet, at least to the extent that mimicry and interoperating with other deformities could improve traction. To restate clearly, if you like big numbers of humanoids, many Linux people don't know any better than to Windows-ize Linux, and the appended proposal assists with that, bigtime, at the kernel level and up. At the Maryland Forth Interest Group meeting today, I mentioned the basic idea of the proposal appended below, and 3 of the five other people there nodded, and seemed to agree. No argument erupted, which is wierd. Not impressed? I challenge you to get 5 Forth guys to agree that 2 and 2 are numbers. Plenty of other arguments did erupt. There's more people at MDFIG when someone brings in thier own from-scratch working Forth-CPU-based multimedia platform or something. These guys have a sense of what works :o) The guy that reserves the room for us at Hopkins APL is busy trying to win a contract to lob some junk to Mercury. The poor bastard has been told he has to use a PPC. The PPC is a fine piece, but 7 watts is a bit much for a trip to Mercury. We haven't talked much about the stack-machine supposely underneath Microsoft's new .BLA or whatever it is. The guys that show up no matter what are Amiga guys as well as Forthers, of course. *nod* Rick Hohensee rickh@capaccess.org Professor Gavil, As an independant programmer, I am obsessed with what works in terms of software. Since Judge Thomas Penfield-Jackson's Finding of Law I have been sure that the judiciary could use some help from an individual such as myself, and events since then seem to bear this out. I get the impression that the Microsoft case has gone on longer than the even Court would have prefered. I attempted to convey a suggestion to Judge Jackson shortly after his Finding of Law, and also spread my suggestion around the Internet a bit. That suggestion is at ftp://linux01.gwdg.de/pub/cLIeNUX/interim/amicus_curae My thinking on that original suggestion has evolved only slightly since that time. A websearch for "Compromising Microsoft" or "Microsoft's word" combined with my surname, Hohensee, should produce later writings. Here's what I think now... The Court declares Microsoft operating system products "criminally compromised intellectual property". This is a special state of copyright protection vacancy, under which Microsoft operating system products lose thier patent and copyright protections exactly five years after thier release dates. That's it. Simple First off, it has one essential characteristic of anything that will be effective upon Microsoft, simplicity. They feed on loopholes. There are none in the above. There's nothing they can do about the Fed not protecting the copyrights thier existance depends upon. There is nothing for them to cooperate with This doesn't require any cooperation or good faith from Microsoft, which is also crucial. (They may actually favor this remedy, however.) Partial substantive monopoly relief It does actually partially break thier monopoly. The AOLs and Oracles and Rick Hohensees of the world can produce thier own alternatives to Windows, based on older versions of Windows. (I personnally have to be very well paid to look at a Windows desktop, but distastes vary. I use Linux.) I believe this addresses what you mentioned to me over the phone as something Judge Jackson insited upon. Emphasis on operating systems The focus is on the software others are dependant on, operating systems. This leaves Microsoft untouched as to application products such as Office. Leaves Microsoft running Microsoft What goes in an OS, where they expend thier energies, all product design decisions and so on remain with Microsoft. Federal micromanagement of Microsoft is avoided, to everyone's benefit. asserts a compromised bargaining position upon Microsoft A negotiation is always determined by the initial positions and status of the negotiators. This creates the possibility of an outside force to condition Microsoft's tenacity. The legislatures of the nations of the world might enact the above if the Court doesn't. Fosters innovation in and outside Microsoft This blows a nice neat .22 caliber hole in Microsoft's hull, and leaves them at the helm, with no patch kit. What will leak into thier vessel, and the only way they can defend themselves from it, is innovation. Can provide replacements for Microsoft if necessary If Microsoft is destroyed by the above, or to the extent that it is, it will be by being replaced by viable alternatives. Self-proportionalizing How bad this turns out to be for Microsoft will be proportional to how little they have improved thier products recently. About Intellectual property Microsoft postures quite enthusiastically as a defender of intellectual property rights. As an individual that produces intellectual property, rather than buying and stealing and reselling it, I personally do not anticipate any harm to me from a compromise upon the copyrights of proven habitual criminals. Rick Hohensee rickh@capaccess.org http://linux01.gwdg.de/~rhohen ftp://linux01.gwdg.de/pub/cLIeNUX ~ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/