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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s4-20020a625e04000000b0063b7c4435c1si7247330pfb.53.2023.05.11.02.47.37; Thu, 11 May 2023 02:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S236207AbjEKJVu (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 11 May 2023 05:21:50 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:45174 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230200AbjEKJVr (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 May 2023 05:21:47 -0400 Received: from wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de [80.237.130.52]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FF0C1A6; Thu, 11 May 2023 02:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2a02:8108:8980:2478:8cde:aa2c:f324:937e]; authenticated by wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1px2UX-0002A5-NX; Thu, 11 May 2023 11:21:41 +0200 Message-ID: <6c1f853b-b051-c390-267e-1ea1741e8537@leemhuis.info> Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 11:21:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.10.0 To: Kees Cook , Jonathan Corbet Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Rong Tao , Lukas Bulwahn , Zhangfei Gao , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20230510183423.never.877-kees@kernel.org> Content-Language: en-US, de-DE From: Thorsten Leemhuis Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: submitting-patches: Discuss interleaved replies In-Reply-To: <20230510183423.never.877-kees@kernel.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;linux@leemhuis.info;1683796906;6a8a3a56; X-HE-SMSGID: 1px2UX-0002A5-NX X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 10.05.23 20:34, Kees Cook wrote: > Top-posting has been strongly discouraged in Linux development, but this > was actually not written anywhere in the common documentation about > sending patches and replying to reviews. Add a section about trimming > and interleaved replies. Thx for doing this. > [...] > --- > Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++ > 1 file changed, 23 insertions(+) For some reason we have duplicate code^w documentation for this, hence I'd say the same or a similar text should also be added to one of the filed in Documentation/process/[0-9].*rst ; from a quick Documentation/process/6.Followthrough.rst might be the best one. Maybe in fact the text should move there and submitting-patches.rst should have a much shorter version, as it's meant to be the terser of the two docs about this. > diff --git a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > index eac7167dce83..3e838da8822f 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > @@ -326,6 +326,29 @@ explaining difference aganst previous submission (see > See Documentation/process/email-clients.rst for recommendations on email > clients and mailing list etiquette. > > +Use trimmed interleaved replies in email discussions > +---------------------------------------------------- > +Top-posting is strongly discouraged in Linux kernel development > +discusions. Interleaved (or "inline") replies make conversations much s/discusions/discussions/ > +easier to follow. For more details see: > +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style > + > +As is frequently quoted on the mailing list: > + > + A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post > + Q: Were do I find info about this thing called top-posting? > + A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > + Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > + A: Top-posting. > + Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > + > +Similarly, please trim all unneeded quotations that aren't relevant > +to your reply. This makes replies easier to find, and saves time and Nitpicking, feel free to ignore: maybe "s/replies/responses/" or something like that, as at least my stupid brain accidentally thought of the email reply (as whole) when reading this for the first time. > +space. For more details see: http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/on_top > [...] Ciao, Thorsten