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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d15-20020a170902cecf00b001ab109ea531si9846507plg.558.2023.05.12.07.55.10; Fri, 12 May 2023 07:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=I3MwLbTh; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S241171AbjELOqN (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 12 May 2023 10:46:13 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:36594 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S241417AbjELOqK (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 May 2023 10:46:10 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B47581FCE; Fri, 12 May 2023 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D13261AE0; Fri, 12 May 2023 14:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 943E5C433A4; Fri, 12 May 2023 14:46:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1683902768; bh=TtzZfksZi7cPRv2uBglEdZgsW/josdyvw+39El6H74o=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=I3MwLbThAIKauAODJShSdIAUTbLO9KXbaKS12uU2H84QX/aBzsg+8qRPRSYX67Pxr Y3PgjeaPumQPZUJRvvY/vTwlXu7MwHeQ7hQEA7yAFltnO+FsFj+U3B/3w0eNepu5Kc a8+j6w50lzEt0knhXZECaRhFVu8J3lW4mwrQDltbdak7vHDcioV5vkBh+V0ad6CYxK lgTpCtSDRVZFJ8UkD0oGBND20VYmf2u32rGpnw/pgouQS1Q5qemPf6wfassdrXfaMV PF9wWUoTz9cBiZZ2/KoS/Pa4YsKFQpjr7GgTGXlf2AOHFPLIgbRZ7Oc3nnu/NU6ViZ EeIFbaTgCfU5Q== Received: by mail-lj1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ac87e7806aso95430711fa.3; Fri, 12 May 2023 07:46:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDzSlgPaAgskwGzJJq4QRacJXsfZ2OprhXndJckFF/W43t9CYrKt px3eRo1NQHihPTNMEfU7PkwpAODLWJqFNm7jw6M= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3767:b0:4ea:e0e7:d12d with SMTP id z7-20020a056512376700b004eae0e7d12dmr3191082lft.1.1683902766600; Fri, 12 May 2023 07:46:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230215100008.2565237-1-ardb@kernel.org> <87y1nvng1s.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> In-Reply-To: <87y1nvng1s.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> From: Ard Biesheuvel Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 16:45:55 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Retire IA64/Itanium support To: Florian Weimer Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , Arnd Bergmann , Tony Luck , Jessica Clarke , John Paul Adrian Glaubitz , Matthew Wilcox , Marc Zyngier , Guenter Roeck , Linus Torvalds , linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 at 23:56, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Ard Biesheuvel: > > > The IA64 port of Linux has no maintainer, and according to a report from > > its only remaining user [0], it has been broken for a month and nobody > > cares. > > > > Given that keeping a complex but unused architecture alive uses up > > valuable developer bandwidth, let's just get rid of it. > > > > This supersedes my patch proposing to mark it as 'dead', which received > > no replies from anyone that wants to keep it alive. [1] > > Is this still going ahead? > > In userspace, ia64 is of course full of special cases, too, so many of > us really want to see it gone, but we can't really start the removal > process while there is still kernel support. I brought this up again [0] in the context of GRUB (which has similar issues related to EFI the the kernel has) and Adrian suggested to raise this discussion more widely, perhaps on the distributions mailing list, among other places. Do you have any recommendations for a venue where we might find the right mix of people who can drive this to a conclusion one way or the other? Thanks, [0] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2023-05/msg00068.html