Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755351AbXJGT2y (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:28:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753307AbXJGT2q (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:28:46 -0400 Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl ([213.51.146.200]:40993 "EHLO smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752385AbXJGT2q (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:28:46 -0400 Message-ID: <47093322.1030200@keyaccess.nl> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:27:30 +0200 From: Rene Herman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Engelhardt CC: Ingo Molnar , Oleg Verych , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Dave Jones , Krzysztof Halasa , Medve Emilian-EMMEDVE1 , Helge Deller Subject: Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage" References: <20071006195105.GE22435@flower.upol.cz> <20071006194820.GA30579@elte.hu> <20071006210349.GG22435@flower.upol.cz> <20071007060706.GA18768@elte.hu> <20071007111035.GO22435@flower.upol.cz> <20071007161255.GA22102@elte.hu> <470929D8.80003@keyaccess.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2072 Lines: 44 On 10/07/2007 08:58 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Oct 7 2007 20:47, Rene Herman wrote: >>>> Coloring isn't useful. If it was, it would be implemented ~16 years >>>> ago. >>> Congratulations, this is the most stupid argument i've ever read on lkml. >> "Ay. World is finished. Everyone can go home and watch Friends reruns now." >> >> But well, there actually have been worse arguments given that VGA console is >> getting less and less important. >> [...] >> Sure, that in itself needn't necesarily be of concern to anyone who, >> err, is not concerned but any such colouring feature appearing when >> there's only a smathering of people left that still cares about the VGA >> console in the first place really isn't all _that_ far out as an >> argument... > > In case you have not noticed, the coloring also applies to FB. As far as > I can oversee, it's only "missing" for serial and PROMs. Must say I did concentrate on VGA, but the [...] bit in the quote above was about how everything I encountered put up a bootsplash hiding _everything_ and about booting into X immediately, not about FB... I saw you remark on FB console in a reply to Alan just now and I quite agree with you. The (current) FB console is slow and I'll add "dumb" myself. When you have a 1280x1024 screen available, you get to do cool things like put up nice little windows and exclamation mark icons on errors, not just pretend you're really 132x50 (or whatever). Alan's sketched more generic markup/unification would be The Way Forward it seems. Given that TWF is mostly defined as "That Which Is Not" (and how it seems to have a tendency to defend that status vigorously) telling me/us to shelve that objection for 10 years might be okay -- but generally I'm having a fairly hard time getting excited about printk colourizing. Rene. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/