Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757575AbXJGXDS (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:03:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754624AbXJGXDK (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:03:10 -0400 Received: from smtp1.betherenow.co.uk ([87.194.0.68]:56753 "EHLO smtp1.bethere.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754019AbXJGXDJ (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:03:09 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 1345 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:03:09 EDT From: Alistair John Strachan To: Willy Tarreau Subject: Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage" Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:40:40 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: Rene Herman , Ingo Molnar , Oleg Verych , Jan Engelhardt , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Dave Jones , Krzysztof Halasa , Medve Emilian-EMMEDVE1 , Helge Deller References: <470929D8.80003@keyaccess.nl> <20071007191309.GS10199@1wt.eu> In-Reply-To: <20071007191309.GS10199@1wt.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710072340.40828.alistair@devzero.co.uk> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1857 Lines: 44 On Sunday 07 October 2007 20:13:09 you wrote: > On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 08:47:52PM +0200, Rene Herman wrote: > > On 10/07/2007 06:12 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > >* Oleg Verych wrote: > > >>Coloring isn't useful. If it was, it would be implemented ~16 years > > >>ago. > > > > > >Congratulations, this is the most stupid argument i've ever read on > > >lkml. > > > > "Ay. World is finished. Everyone can go home and watch Friends reruns > > now." > > > > But well, there actually have been worse arguments given that VGA console > > is getting less and less important. I recently did a perusal of > > alternative distributions and didn't find a single one that didn't > > default to having a splash screen hide the kernel during boot (and if I'm > > not mistaken, only one of them provided me with the option during > > installation to not boot into X immediately afterwards). > > I don't recall having seen any splash screen on Slackware. And fortunately, > the mainstream distros still provide the option to boot in text mode. Debian defaultly doesn't use framebuffer or any kind of splash screen. Splash screens are clearly cosmetic, and it's kind of shameful (imo) that important messages explaining real problems are obscured from view by functionless splash screens. Personally, I think muddying the vga colour argument with splash screen stuff is bogus, they're very functionally separable ideas. A coloured oops seems to be a good way of telling novice users what information is relevant to their bug report. -- Cheers, Alistair. 137/1 Warrender Park Road, Edinburgh, UK. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/