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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id jj9-20020a170903048900b001a63a7b7025si3272999plb.30.2023.05.19.02.57.41; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@google.com header.s=20221208 header.b=0bBmjPko; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=google.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229970AbjESJpT (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 19 May 2023 05:45:19 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:47740 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230103AbjESJoc (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 May 2023 05:44:32 -0400 Received: from mail-yw1-x1149.google.com (mail-yw1-x1149.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1149]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACC5B1FD9 for ; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-x1149.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-561bad0999aso63801587b3.0 for ; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:43:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20221208; t=1684489337; x=1687081337; h=cc:to:from:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=pSbexTpIDWFKTxIj9uHgD7rGvKby6+WkT0yDQfZhD+w=; b=0bBmjPkohTtvvlkvia/8urb44+bLMMzBP55rf2YP0+6CbNNARGd/AYaZ32xavtUSZO VwNg+G8m7Ye2FG3arr//xXruErVnxHZn5pkJeUtf5GK9WMHSmv3/eTf/OXqy4HQaKf7j x7zgUM1hoeZbSgYqGVJfoEnqxMrPYaiRMm1Te40sMKiF09Fykp1SS0rAfwPQAtgs+JId QlASrIjFE5qUbHAwYilquIDX0bJgtme1ZSYXY4w81pGKY1tBX6niGvryI/BFvM0dWtQu B4eQkuUKv2gooWjtdnKwPOa0m/Vz9SRMij5Yg6IHqZgM0P5EpUq10j6AW/miPcEzvZZ8 IH1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1684489337; x=1687081337; h=cc:to:from:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=pSbexTpIDWFKTxIj9uHgD7rGvKby6+WkT0yDQfZhD+w=; b=XUdF+0PBUUZGkA5BnBZZYxZtP0BxQjMoIMAnLThiSP1EDVvTZJ7RuprrKZJ/vMESFf ibZdTRvjyyzkWGfhHP4U+hevhWKD+ujJINJ77jydSijcFIbhaEJQ6tQRbg6L/1Ui3CT8 c6Hhti1w1ijg7d6w1GTx3hzLouGFdXsF3mGC5G0jtjVUS/1Fski0oCcUrvF9nxJ6L3co uidJ4Eu6WCoCw53SI87GumQDZX8UAy8Ag1HyHLQAo5KyJ+LU3ZK8lcIFO63bnbtGZOF9 5Idmpj0wt58urYZeru7q6d6IPO6w7mBA5DVUB6EDSM6i/lMvcVkQgBcGq1MReM0KvmNS 217w== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDySLZUYI5NzxxIvSz7LBgSj9MjHxos8TEbqM6CuCexbAsivpVXn YNAyGdPj0l2Z1darsiUn4xV/Emnz4ntbAyw= X-Received: from aliceryhl.c.googlers.com ([fda3:e722:ac3:cc00:31:98fb:c0a8:6c8]) (user=aliceryhl job=sendgmr) by 2002:a81:af49:0:b0:561:9091:ff91 with SMTP id x9-20020a81af49000000b005619091ff91mr900753ywj.2.1684489336986; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 09:42:14 +0000 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.40.1.698.g37aff9b760-goog Message-ID: <20230519094214.3433619-1-aliceryhl@google.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] rust: specify when `ARef` is thread safe From: Alice Ryhl To: boqun.feng@gmail.com Cc: alex.gaynor@gmail.com, aliceryhl@google.com, benno.lossin@proton.me, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, gary@garyguo.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com, mingo@redhat.com, ojeda@kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev, peterz@infradead.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, wedsonaf@gmail.com, will@kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 5/18/23 23:24, Boqun Feng wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 09:59:04AM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote: >> +// SAFETY: It is safe to send `ARef` to another thread when the underlying `T` is `Sync` because >> +// it effectively means sharing `&T` (which is safe because `T` is `Sync`); additionally, it needs >> +// `T` to be `Send` because any thread that has an `ARef` may ultimately access `T` directly, for > > Does the "ultimately access `T` directly" here imply mutably or > exclusively? If so, it makes sense to me to call it out. I'm trying to > make sure we can agree on some "common terminologies" ;) It means "access using a mutable reference". I agree that "directly" is a bit unclear - I copied it from the safety comment on Arc. Alice