Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754595AbXJHVjU (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:39:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752722AbXJHVjN (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:39:13 -0400 Received: from THUNK.ORG ([69.25.196.29]:59421 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752654AbXJHVjM (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:39:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:38:52 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: Jan Engelhardt , Sam Ravnborg , Jonathan Corbet , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Pekka Enberg Subject: Re: RFC: reviewer's statement of oversight Message-ID: <20071008213852.GA31713@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , "H. Peter Anvin" , Jan Engelhardt , Sam Ravnborg , Jonathan Corbet , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Pekka Enberg References: <25555.1191864285@lwn.net> <20071008173706.GA12026@uranus.ravnborg.org> <470A9422.4050400@zytor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <470A9422.4050400@zytor.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1933 Lines: 37 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 01:33:38PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Uhm, no. There is no reason an "unimportant" person couldn't review a > patch, and therefore perform a potentially highly valuable service to > the maintainer. > > None of these are indicative of the authority of the person acking, > reviewing, testing, or nacking. That's only as good as the trust in the > person signing. I would tend to agree. Right now I think the problem is that we are getting too little reviews, not enough. And someone who reviews patches, even if unknown, could be building up expertise that eventually would make them a valued developer, even while they are doing us a service. The concern that I suspect some people have is what if this gets abused by people who don't really bother to do a full review of a patch before they ack it. We could ask reviewers to include a URL to an LKML archive of their review, to make it easier to find a review of a patch so later on people can judge how effective they their review was. Unfortunately, this would be an added burden for the regular reviewers, so I doubt this would be well accepted as a practice. My suggestion is to not worry about this for now, and see how well it works out in practice. If we start getting half a dozen or more Reviewed-by: where the patch is pretty clearly not getting adequately reviewed, or where someone is obviously abusing the system, and social pressures aren't working, we can try to figure out then how we want to address that problem then. Let's not make the process too complicated unless we know it's necessary. Premature complexity is almost as bad as premature optimization.... - Ted - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/