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Date:   Wed, 24 May 2023 11:08:14 +0100
From:   Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] dt-bindings: mfd: stpmic1: add fsl,pmic-poweroff
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On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 10:16:13AM +0200, Sean Nyekj=C3=A6r wrote:
> Hi Conor,
>=20
> > On 23 May 2023, at 19.29, Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote:
> >=20
> > On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 11:55:50AM +0200, Sean Nyekj=C3=A6r wrote:
> >>> On 16 May 2023, at 20.06, Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 03:22:24PM +0200, Sean Nyekjaer wrote:
> >>>> Document the new optional "fsl,pmic-poweroff" property.
> >>>>=20
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Sean Nyekjaer <sean@geanix.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/st,stpmic1.yaml | 8 ++++++++
> >>>> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> >>>>=20
> >>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/st,stpmic1.yaml b=
/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/st,stpmic1.yaml
> >>>> index 9573e4af949e..5183a7c660d2 100644
> >>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/st,stpmic1.yaml
> >>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/st,stpmic1.yaml
> >>>> @@ -26,6 +26,14 @@ properties:
> >>>>=20
> >>>>  interrupt-controller: true
> >>>>=20
> >>>> +  st,pmic-poweroff:
> >>>> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/flag
> >>>> +    description: |
> >>>> +      if present, configure the PMIC to shutdown all power rails wh=
en
> >>>> +      power off sequence have finished.
> >>>> +      Use this option if the SoC should be powered off by external =
power management
> >>>> +      IC (PMIC).
> >>>=20
> >>> Just reading this description, this is sounding quite like a "software
> >>> behaviour" type of property, which are not permitted, rather than
> >>> describing some element of the hardware. Clearly you are trying to so=
lve
> >>> an actual problem though, so try re-phrasing the description (and
> >>> property name) to focus on what exact hardware configuration it is th=
at
> >>> you are trying to special-case.
> >>> Krzysztof suggested that the samsung,s2mps11-acokb-ground property in
> >>> samsung,s2mps11.yaml is addressing a similar problem, so that could be
> >>> good to look at.
> >>=20
> >> Better wording?
> >>      Indicates that the power management IC (PMIC) is used to power of=
f the board.
> >>      So as the last step in the power off sequence set the SWOFF bit i=
n the
> >>      main control register (MAIN_CR) register, to shutdown all power r=
ails.
> >=20
> > The description for the property that Krzysztof mentioned is
> >  samsung,s2mps11-acokb-ground:
> >    description: |
> >      Indicates that ACOKB pin of S2MPS11 PMIC is connected to the groun=
d so
> >      the PMIC must manually set PWRHOLD bit in CTRL1 register to turn o=
ff the
> >      power. Usually the ACOKB is pulled up to VBATT so when PWRHOLD pin=
 goes
> >      low, the rising ACOKB will trigger power off.
> >=20
> > In other words, I am asking what (abnormal?) scenario there is that mea=
ns
> > you need the property, rather than what setting the property does.
> > Or am I totally off, and this is the only way this PMIC works?
>=20
> Indicates that the power management IC (PMIC) turn-off condition is met
> by setting the SWOFF bit in the main control register (MAIN_CR) register.
> Turn-off condition can still be reached by the PONKEY input.
>=20
> ?
>=20
> I must admit I=E2=80=99m somewhat lost here :)

Sorry about that. I'm trying to understand what is different about your
hardware that it needs the property rather than what adding the property
does. If you look at the samsung one, it describes both the
configuration of the hardware ("ACOKB pin of S2MPS11 PMIC is connected to
the ground") and how that is different from normal ("Usually the ACOKB is
pulled up to VBATT so when PWRHOLD pin goes low, the rising ACOKB will
trigger power off.")

Looking at your datasheet, you don't have such a pin though - just the
sw poweroff bit & the PONKEY stuff. My angle is just that I am trying
to figure out why you need this property when it has not been needed
before. Or why you would not always want to "shutdown all power rails
when power-off sequence have finished". I'm sorry if these are silly
questions.


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