Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756818AbXJKFdz (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:33:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753537AbXJKFds (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:33:48 -0400 Received: from smtp2.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.14]:52077 "EHLO smtp2.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753527AbXJKFdr (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:33:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:32:22 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: "Markus Rechberger" Cc: mchehab@infradead.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-dvb-maintainer@linuxtv.org, video4linux-list@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24 Message-Id: <20071010223222.27799eef.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: References: <1192053794.15601.47.camel@gaivota> <20071010163625.b4b438ec.akpm@linux-foundation.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.1 (GTK+ 2.8.17; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2417 Lines: 58 On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:09:47 +0200 "Markus Rechberger" wrote: > On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 > > "Markus Rechberger" wrote: > > > > Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an additional > > paragraph. > > > > > > drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-core.c | 1 - > > > > drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-input.c | 1 - > > > > drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-video.c | 6 +- > > > > > > not accepted > > > > Until your attempt to get the userspace-driver work merged into the kernel > > is successful (and from my reading of last month's discussion it is nowhere > > near that), we should continue to maintain the present driver. > > > > If you choose to not participate in that maintenance then others will need > > to do their best in this regard. > > > > What we should not and will not do is to permit the current driver to be > > held hostage to your attempt to force a controversial and apparently > > unwelcome change into the tree. > > > > It makes no sense to keep the kernel driver uptodate, It makes heaps of sense to keep the in-tree driver up to date if the out-of-tree driver is unmergeable, which appears to be the case. > it would make > more sense to support the latest driver (which some people are > supporting). But that ignores all of last month's discussion and the various reservations which various people have expressed. Please take my advise, based upon my experience in kernel development: I don't expect that we'll be merging the mcentral.de driver in anything like its present form. So we must continue to maintain and evolve the kernel.org driver. > I just had a look at the driver downloads it makes around 600 > downloads for september for this driver. If someone's interested in > those stats I can give access to it privatly. > The current option for people who own such a device is to take the > driver from mcentral.de. Well that's a shame. But we have n,000 drivers in-tree which work OK without doing unusual and disturbing user/kernel splits. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/