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X-OriginatorOrg: Nvidia.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2023 23:50:01.1104 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: cbb9956d-6a37-41f6-64d3-08db5fd64076 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 43083d15-7273-40c1-b7db-39efd9ccc17a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalAttributedTenantConnectingIp: TenantId=43083d15-7273-40c1-b7db-39efd9ccc17a;Ip=[216.228.117.161];Helo=[mail.nvidia.com] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: CY4PEPF0000E9D2.namprd03.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CH2PR12MB4972 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FORGED_SPF_HELO, NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 5/26/23 20:18, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 07:11:05PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote: >>> So any user with 1024 processes can fragment physical memory? :/ >>> >>> Sorry, I'd like to minimize the usage of folio_maybe_dma_pinned(). >> >> I was actually thinking that we should minimize any more cases of >> fragile mapcount and refcount comparison, which then leads to >> Matthew's approach here! > > I was wondering if we shouldn't make folio_maybe_dma_pinned() a little > more accurate. eg: > > if (folio_test_large(folio)) > return atomic_read(&folio->_pincount) > 0; > return (unsigned)(folio_ref_count(folio) - folio_mapcount(folio)) >= > GUP_PIN_COUNTING_BIAS; I'm trying to figure out what might be wrong with that, but it seems OK. We must have talked about this earlier, but I recall vaguely that there was not a lot of concern about the case of a page being mapped > 1024 times. Because pinned or not, it's likely to be effectively locked into memory due to LRU effects. As mentioned here, too. Anyway, sure. A detail: The unsigned cast, I'm not sure that helps or solves anything, right? That is, other than bugs, is it possible to get refcount < mapcount? And if it's only due to bugs, then the casting, again, isn't likely to going to mitigate the fallout from whatever mess the bug caused. thanks, -- John Hubbard NVIDIA