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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o25-20020a637319000000b0053b8c964128si1270201pgc.708.2023.05.31.10.14.11; Wed, 31 May 2023 10:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@infradead.org header.s=bombadil.20210309 header.b=tc2HCj6C; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229636AbjEaQ5n (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 31 May 2023 12:57:43 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:39288 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229455AbjEaQ5l (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 May 2023 12:57:41 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [IPv6:2607:7c80:54:3::133]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 837F8134; Wed, 31 May 2023 09:57:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender:In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=sQf6qkA4MEbn8EichAXNjYGf8MDrQBBNv2l2z1zQPA0=; b=tc2HCj6Cn1LdEc84oXW9SaHEtv 3siyUr4dMxMBLVDobevnbEEiCz21oQMPxV9VZh6Q9LNtEMcFBYS0/98cfaEVHv8thxxgjG1cmFn4t AcjBb3Ci7Pgy5/CA0pGmkxdp0M6zIjPEWocIqCFxop9tJ1i9uOZAB9ZjTQk5fpLmBNM5NoLqG66ee qQ8q8/a6Rfm3a/iqnYo9R71yfBAtth+4fOyhrcuBFOBpMTxkZC20xc2lkU7XBk0In0NvoBlgaJeRQ 8G8wiV1+qXn6rNrksuo1Zi5gsUGzMKxkcYxW2iYrtCLBf78sPNkwEC7a8wXP0dUfjh9zrHddk0v1y UYFFygGg==; Received: from mcgrof by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1q4P8O-000XDH-2D; Wed, 31 May 2023 16:57:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 09:57:16 -0700 From: Luis Chamberlain To: David Hildenbrand Cc: Linus Torvalds , Johan Hovold , Lucas De Marchi , Petr Pavlu , gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org, song@kernel.org, lucas.de.marchi@gmail.com, christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu, peterz@infradead.org, rppt@kernel.org, dave@stgolabs.net, willy@infradead.org, vbabka@suse.cz, mhocko@suse.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, colin.i.king@gmail.com, jim.cromie@gmail.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com, jbaron@akamai.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com, yujie.liu@intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de, hch@lst.de, patches@lists.linux.dev, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pmladek@suse.com, prarit@redhat.com, lennart@poettering.net Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] module: add support to avoid duplicates early on load Message-ID: References: <499e30cc-d015-8353-1364-50d17da58f47@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <499e30cc-d015-8353-1364-50d17da58f47@redhat.com> Sender: Luis Chamberlain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_EF,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 09:51:41AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: > On 30.05.23 18:22, Luis Chamberlain wrote: > > On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 09:55:15PM -0400, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 11:18 AM Johan Hovold wrote: > > > > > > > > I took a closer look at some of the modules that failed to load and > > > > noticed a pattern in that they have dependencies that are needed by more > > > > than one device. > > > > > > Ok, this is a "maybe something like this" RFC series of two patches - > > > one trivial one to re-organize things a bit so that we can then do the > > > real one which uses a filter based on the inode pointer to return an > > > "idempotent return value" for module loads that share the same inode. > > > > > > It's entirely untested, and since I'm on the road I'm going to not > > > really be able to test it. It compiles for me, and the code looks > > > fairly straightforward, but it's probably buggy. > > > > > > It's very loosely based on Luis' attempt, but it > > > (a) is internal to module loading > > > (b) uses a reliable cookie > > > (c) doesn't leave the cookie around randomly for later > > > (d) has seen absolutely no testing > > > > > > Put another way: if somebody wants to play with this, please treat it > > > as a starting point, not the final thing. You might need to debug > > > things, and fix silly mistakes. > > > > > > The idea is to just have a simple hash list of currently executing > > > module loads, protected by a trivial spinlock. Every module loader > > > adds itself to the right hash list, and if they were the *first* one > > > (ie no other pending module loads for that inode), will actually do > > > the module load. > > > > > > Everybody who *isn't* the first one will just wait for completion and > > > return the same error code that the first one returned. > > > > That's also a hell much more snazzier MODULE_DEBUG_AUTOLOAD_DUPS if we > > ever wanted to do something similar there if we wanted to also > > join request_module() calls, instead of it hiding under debug. > > > > > This is technically bogus. The first one might fail due to arguments. > > > > For boot it's fine, as I can't think of boot wanting to support trying > > to load a module with different arguments but who knows. But I can't > > see it sensible to issue concurrent multiple requests for modules > > with different arguments without waiting in userspace for the first > > to fail. > > > > Even post-boot, doing that sounds rather insane, but it would certainly > > be a compromise and should probably be clearly documented. I think just > > a comment acknolwedging that corner case seems sensible. > > > > Because we won't be able to get the arguments until we process the > > module, so it would be too late for this optimization on kread. So it is > > why I had also stuck to the original feature being in kread, as then it > > provides a uniq kread call and the caller is aware of it. But indeed I > > had not considered the effects of arguments. > > > > Lucas, any thoughts from modules kmod userspace perspective into > > supporting anyone likely issuing concurrent modules requests with > > differing arguments? > > > > > So the cookie shouldn't be just the inode, it should be the inode and > > > a hash of the arguments or something like that. > > > > Personally I think it's a fine optimization without the arguments. > > > > > But it is what it is, > > > and apart from possible show-stopper bugs this is no worse than the > > > failed "exclusive write deny" attempt. IOW - maybe worth trying? > > > > The only thing I can think of is allowing threads other than the > > first one to complete before the one that actually loaded the > > module. I thought about this race for module auto-loading, see > > the comment in kmod_dup_request_announce(), so that just > > further delays the completion to other thread with a stupid > > queue_work(). That seems more important for module auto-loading > > duplicates than for boot finit_module() duplicates. But not sure > > if odering matters in the end due to a preemtible kernel and maybe > > that concern is hysteria. > > > > > And if *that* didn't sell people on this patch series, I don't know > > > what will. I should be in marketing! Two drink minimums, here I come! > > > > Sold: > > > > on 255 vcpus 0 duplicates found with this setup: > > > > root@kmod ~ # cat /sys/kernel/debug/modules/stats > > Mods ever loaded 66 > > Mods failed on kread 0 > > Mods failed on decompress 0 > > Mods failed on becoming 0 > > Mods failed on load 0 > > Total module size 11268096 > > Total mod text size 4149248 > > Failed kread bytes 0 > > Failed decompress bytes 0 > > Failed becoming bytes 0 > > Failed kmod bytes 0 > > Virtual mem wasted bytes 0 > > Average mod size 170729 > > Average mod text size 62868 > > > > So: > > > > Tested-by: Luis Chamberlain > > > > In terms of bootup timing: > > > > Before: > > Startup finished in 41.653s (kernel) + 44.305s (userspace) = 1min 25.958s > > graphical.target reached after 44.178s in userspace. > > After: > > Startup finished in 23.995s (kernel) + 40.350s (userspace) = 1min 4.345s > > graphical.target reached after 40.226s in userspace. > > I'll try grabbing the system where we saw the KASAN-related issues [1] and > give it a churn with and without the two patches. Might take a bit (~1 day), > unfortunately. > > [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20221013180518.217405-1-david@redhat.com Great, don't forget: diff --git a/kernel/module/main.c b/kernel/module/main.c index 82b0dcc1fe77..222015093eeb 100644 --- a/kernel/module/main.c +++ b/kernel/module/main.c @@ -3066,7 +3066,7 @@ struct idempotent { #define IDEM_HASH_BITS 8 static struct hlist_head idem_hash[1 << IDEM_HASH_BITS]; -static struct spinlock idem_lock; +static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(idem_lock); static bool idempotent(struct idempotent *u, const void *cookie) {