Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759942AbXJLUrE (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:47:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757127AbXJLUqy (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:46:54 -0400 Received: from mga09.intel.com ([134.134.136.24]:48422 "EHLO mga09.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756554AbXJLUqx (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:46:53 -0400 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,268,1188802800"; d="scan'208";a="171216803" Message-ID: <470FDD29.9030708@intel.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:46:33 -0700 From: "Kok, Auke" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070911) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu CC: 7eggert@gmx.de, prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Lennart Sorensen , Pavel Machek , Arjan van de Ven , kernel list Subject: Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption References: <9c8XH-7gs-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <9c9qN-7Rn-19@gated-at.bofh.it> <9cs0n-3Dc-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <9csjH-43E-33@gated-at.bofh.it> <9d4yC-5hT-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <9d7ZJ-2mI-11@gated-at.bofh.it> <470FA243.6030908@intel.com> <12419.1192221016@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <12419.1192221016@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2007 20:46:46.0870 (UTC) FILETIME=[015F7F60:01C80D11] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1329 Lines: 28 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:35:15 PDT, "Kok, Auke" said: > >>> How much power does a non-connected NIC consume, and can you save power >>> by forcing 10 MBit until a link is detected (doubling negotiation time)? >> no, the PHY consumes a minimal amount of energy when not connected, regardless of >> whether it is advertising 10, 100 or 1000mbit. > > Is that true for essentially all the chipsets we support (or at least "the vast > majority of the ones currently found in common machines")? I would assume that that is true for all PHY's - if there is no link to keep the carrier active on I would think that the power consumption is nominal across the board. Once the PHY detects link pulses it should obviously use different power levels to negotiate the link for each speed. PHY autonegotiation just works the same across the board - the PHY's send out little pulses (iow nominal power consumption) to detect a link partner, and only when one is found do they engage in more aggressive conversation to establish capabilities across the link. Auke - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/