Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756496AbXJNOFT (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:05:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756207AbXJNOFF (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:05:05 -0400 Received: from sovereign.computergmbh.de ([85.214.69.204]:36721 "EHLO sovereign.computergmbh.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752233AbXJNOFD (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:05:03 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:05:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Jan Engelhardt To: Mark Lord cc: vignesh babu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: wierd file perms In-Reply-To: <47121943.2030902@rtr.ca> Message-ID: References: <3d1754a30710131010h5d3cbb28tfeb8b4228a448f2e@mail.gmail.com> <20071013172848.GE16774@lug-owl.de> <47121943.2030902@rtr.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1497 Lines: 46 On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: > Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: >> On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu >> wrote: >> > I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: >> > >> > total 0 >> > ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? fcntl.c >> > ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? fifo.c >> > ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? filesystems.c >> > ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? file_table.c >> > ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? freevxfs >> > >> > So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms >> > or ownership even as root. >> >> Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. > > No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory > has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -????????? ? ? ? ? ? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. "-?????????" vs "?---------". The first looks to me like "filetype known (S_IFREG)", while the latter is "filetype and mode unknown". - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/