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([2001:b07:6468:f312:9af8:e5f5:7516:fa89]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v12-20020aa7cd4c000000b0050bc6983041sm4057277edw.96.2023.06.05.11.27.31 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Jun 2023 11:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b7194b7-4616-0585-9a4a-91d42eebea9a@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 20:27:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.10.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86/mmu: Remove KVM MMU write lock when accessing indirect_shadow_pages Content-Language: en-US To: Ben Gardon , Jim Mattson Cc: Mingwei Zhang , Sean Christopherson , "H. Peter Anvin" , kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20230605004334.1930091-1-mizhang@google.com> From: Paolo Bonzini In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 6/5/23 19:17, Ben Gardon wrote: >>> - if (indirect_shadow_pages) >>> + if (READ_ONCE(vcpu->kvm->arch.indirect_shadow_pages)) >> I don't understand the need for READ_ONCE() here. That implies that >> there is something tricky going on, and I don't think that's the case. > Agree this doesn't need a READ_ONCE. Just a read is fine. > kvm_mmu_unprotect_page starts by acquiring the MMU lock, so there's > not much room to reorder anything anyway. I agree that "there's not much room to reorder anything", but it's not a particularly formal/reassuring statement :) and READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE have documentation value too. Or maybe it's because I've become used to the C11 memory model. Either way, I like the idea to use READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE more explicitly whenever there can be concurrent accesses (which would be data races in the C11 model), and I think Linux is moving in that direction too. Paolo