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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:06:47 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
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To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] kill(-1,sig)
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> 
> Note that I've reverted the kill(-1...) thing in my personal tree: so far
> I've gotten a lot of negative feedback, and the change doesn't seem to
> actually buy us anything except for conformance to a unclearly weasel-
> worded standards sentence where we could be even more weasely and just say
> that "self" is a special process from the systems perspective.
> 
> 		Linus
> 

Isn't the de-facto standard that:

kill -<sig> -1

... should send the signal to everyone but the one executing the call?

For years, the "quick way" to shut down a Unix system was:

kill -TERM -1
sync
kill -KILL -1
sync
umount -a

... hit power switch...

Eliminating the ability to shut down a system in a few seconds is
gonna make a lot of persons unhappy --especially if one has to run
the RH kiddie scripts that take forever...... 



Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
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