Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763265AbXJNUCA (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:02:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751435AbXJNUBu (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:01:50 -0400 Received: from rtr.ca ([76.10.145.34]:2671 "EHLO mail.rtr.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759123AbXJNUBu (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:01:50 -0400 Message-ID: <471275AB.7090502@rtr.ca> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:01:47 -0400 From: Mark Lord User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Engelhardt Cc: vignesh babu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: wierd file perms References: <3d1754a30710131010h5d3cbb28tfeb8b4228a448f2e@mail.gmail.com> <20071013172848.GE16774@lug-owl.de> <47121943.2030902@rtr.ca> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1582 Lines: 46 Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: >> Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: >>> On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu >>> wrote: >>>> I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: >>>> >>>> total 0 >>>> ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? fcntl.c >>>> ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? fifo.c >>>> ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? filesystems.c >>>> ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? file_table.c >>>> ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? freevxfs >>>> >>>> So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms >>>> or ownership even as root. >>> Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. >> No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory >> has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. > > Er, close. > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > md a > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > touch a/b > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > chmod 644 a > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls -l a > /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied > total 0 > -????????? ? ? ? ? ? b > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls --version > ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 > > > There is a difference .. "-?????????" vs "?---------". That's just a version difference for GNU ls. Here, with ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 it gives this: ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? a/b - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/