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Tsirkin" To: "Eric W. Biederman" Cc: Mike Christie , Oleg Nesterov , linux@leemhuis.info, nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com, axboe@kernel.dk, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, sgarzare@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com, brauner@kernel.org Subject: Re: Can vhost translate to io_uring? Message-ID: <20230614101951-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> References: <20230602192254.GD555@redhat.com> <87r0qt18qq.fsf_-_@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> <20230605151037.GE32275@redhat.com> <03c07f48-8922-f563-560c-f0d4cc3e1279@oracle.com> <20230606121643.GD7542@redhat.com> <39f5913c-e658-e476-0378-62236bb4ed49@oracle.com> <20230606193907.GB18866@redhat.com> <87mt12oa25.fsf_-_@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87mt12oa25.fsf_-_@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 01:02:58AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > I am sad my idea for simplifying things did not work out. > > > Let's try an even bigger idea to reduce maintenance and simplify things. > > Could vhost depend on io_uring? > > Could vhost just be a translation layer of existing vhost requests to > io_uring requests? I expect that's going to have a measureable performance impact. > At a quick glance it looks like io_uring already supports the > functionality that vhost supports (which I think is networking and > scsi). > > If vhost could become a translation layer that would allow removing > the vhost worker and PF_USER_WORKER could be removed completely, > leaving only PF_IO_WORKER. > > > I suggest this because a significant vhost change is needed because in > the long term the hacks in exec and coredump are not a good idea. Which > means something like my failed "[PATCH v3] fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD > to fix freezer/ps regression". > > If we have to go to all of the trouble of reworking things it why can't > we just make io_uring do all of the work? > > Eric